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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Loosing my religion</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32627.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 06:29:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:32627</guid><dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32627.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=32627</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;jandyt:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;GANGO:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;hi all&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;another point is: you cannot abbandon B&amp;amp;O because there is no&amp;nbsp; other brand with a fantastic comunity like the beoworld members are!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;when you&amp;#39;re alone in the dark with problems on your kikinoko setup try to search help on kikinokoworld.org&amp;nbsp;.....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;greetings&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good lad Gango. You say all the right things.&lt;br /&gt;Looks like you are trying hard to win first prize on July 31&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/05.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All you have to do now is put your hand in your pocket and sign up for Gold!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Andy T.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here here! &amp;nbsp;&lt;img border="0" height="19" src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/emotion-22.gif" width="19" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Loosing my religion</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32596.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:11:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:32596</guid><dc:creator>Jandyt</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32596.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=32596</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;GANGO:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;hi all&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;another point is: you cannot abbandon B&amp;amp;O because there is no&amp;nbsp; other brand with a fantastic comunity like the beoworld members are!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;when you&amp;#39;re alone in the dark with problems on your kikinoko setup try to search help on kikinokoworld.org&amp;nbsp;.....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;greetings&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good lad Gango. You say all the right things.&lt;br /&gt;Looks like you are trying hard to win first prize on July 31&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/05.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All you have to do now is put your hand in your pocket and sign up for Gold!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Andy T.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Loosing my religion</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32575.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:56:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:32575</guid><dc:creator>GANGO</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32575.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=32575</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;hi all&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;another point is: you cannot abbandon B&amp;amp;O because there is no&amp;nbsp; other brand with a fantastic comunity like the beoworld members are!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;when you&amp;#39;re alone in the dark with problems on your kikinoko setup try to search help on kikinokoworld.org&amp;nbsp;.....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;greetings&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Loosing my religion</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32355.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:08:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:32355</guid><dc:creator>Mico</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32355.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=32355</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Bieele:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;Great post and discussions;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I still love my B&amp;amp;O stuff; but lately I get less exited by the release of (part of) the new B&amp;amp;O stuff. The BL5 and 9 were the best product releases of the last years; still expensive; but great value for money! But if I look at the tv range I am far less excited; this part of the market seems to be going to fast for B&amp;amp;O to keep up. I think it is time that B&amp;amp;O surprises us (or at least me) again by introducing new products that are great by combining design, quality, innovativation and user friendlyness!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Regards,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bieele&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;IMO the last excellent tv products of B&amp;amp;O were the LX sets, they were not even that expensive. Avant was not providing enough value for the investment, BS3 now has the potential.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The screens&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/38.gif" alt="Erm" /&gt;. I can not justify myself to pay that much more for the B&amp;amp;O aluminium frame and the contrast glas.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Loosing my religion</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32262.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 03:56:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:32262</guid><dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32262.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=32262</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Agreed! Nothing is as simple (yet advanced under the skin) as B&amp;O. However, they are falling down in certain areas.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Loosing my religion</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32252.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 03:00:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:32252</guid><dc:creator>GANGO</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32252.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=32252</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;hi everybody!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;anyway, if you think about it -there is no alternative to b&amp;amp;o if you pretend good soundquality, fine design, excellent craftmansship and above all the full intergration in your home and the possibility to add in every moment of your life a new component to your set up. try to add a new dvd player to your kikinoko setup that you bought 5 years ago- it will not fit for colour or size or what ever! try to transfer your favorite music into your bathroom for the morningshower! with b&amp;amp;o it&amp;#39;s quit simple, with any other brand it&amp;#39;s almost impossible. and as other members already said, if you don&amp;#39;t like the actual stuff&amp;nbsp; and you prefer to wait until you find some new stuff ,you can go for excellent products from yesterday&amp;nbsp;wich are&amp;nbsp;beautyful and modern today and so&amp;nbsp;they will be tomorrow.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;the only alternative i can see IMO is Revox &lt;span class="a"&gt;&lt;font color="#008000"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.revox.ch/"&gt;www.&lt;strong&gt;revox&lt;/strong&gt;.ch&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, nice stuff and full integration but it is not the same....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;gango&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Loosing my religion</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32225.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:11:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:32225</guid><dc:creator>Bieele</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32225.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=32225</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Great post and discussions;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I still love my B&amp;amp;O stuff; but lately I get less exited by the release of (part of) the new B&amp;amp;O stuff. The BL5 and 9 were the best product releases of the last years; still expensive; but great value for money! But if I look at the tv range I am far less excited; this part of the market seems to be going to fast for B&amp;amp;O to keep up. I think it is time that B&amp;amp;O surprises us (or at least me) again by introducing new products that are great by combining design, quality, innovativation and user friendlyness!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Regards,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bieele&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Loosing my religion</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32202.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:28:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:32202</guid><dc:creator>darioazul</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32202.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=32202</wfw:commentRss><description>Dear All:&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Enjoy what you have; share your music; and keep listening.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;dario&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Loosing my religion</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32188.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:48:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:32188</guid><dc:creator>jooka</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32188.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=32188</wfw:commentRss><description>interesting thread. keep posting. i read.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Loosing my religion</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32169.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:07:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:32169</guid><dc:creator>BenSA</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32169.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=32169</wfw:commentRss><description>Thats the beauty of B&amp;amp;O, goes straight to your heart!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Loosing my religion</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32167.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:00:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:32167</guid><dc:creator>SDB</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32167.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=32167</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Francois.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I eXpecially like the way I spelled &amp;quot;especially&amp;quot;!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But the post was heartfelt, which is odd. I mean, it&amp;#39;s still just stereo stuff, ya know?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Loosing my religion</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32156.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:43:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:32156</guid><dc:creator>BenSA</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32156.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=32156</wfw:commentRss><description>Wow SDB, that was a great post!!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Loosing my religion</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32150.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:30:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:32150</guid><dc:creator>SDB</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/32150.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=32150</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I fully understand.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What drew me to B&amp;amp;O, in 1983, when we took the entire final&amp;nbsp; proceeds from a settlement following a burglary of pretty much everything we owned (making us probably the poorest B&amp;amp;O owners in the world!) - was the way music sounded.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That, enhanced by the simplicity of use (which my wife expecially loved) made us incredibly happy with our quite low-end B&amp;amp;O.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, thanks to some&amp;nbsp; burglars, we converted the insured value of everything - our meager jewelry, beat-up cameras, small appliances - everything we owned as a new couple expecting their first kid - into a stereo.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We didn&amp;#39;t have a clock radio, but we had a beautiful and beautiful sounding stereo.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;All was well in the world.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;24 years later, both kids are musicians, and I&amp;#39;m scrounging for vintage B&amp;amp;O.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, yes, it&amp;#39;s a religion, but there are soooo many ways to practice it, if you don&amp;#39;t fear the occasional heresy.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Loosing my religion</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/31610.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 12:28:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:31610</guid><dc:creator>mfirst</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/31610.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=31610</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I may not have lost my religion - as I still love this site and I think the B&amp;amp;O stuff is beautiful - but I am not exactly sure I am ready to tithe my income to the Church of B&amp;amp;O for much longer. &amp;nbsp;The stuff is too expensive. &amp;nbsp;It is expensive to fix (US$400 to fix &amp;quot;something broken&amp;quot; with my BS1 last year), my Mom is looking at a US$2000+ repair bill for an old beosystem something-or-another since the CD mechanism no longer works. &amp;nbsp;The TV situation, esp here in the US, is insane. &amp;nbsp;Expensive to maintain. &amp;nbsp;Aspects of the systems make no sense at all. &amp;nbsp;Yes, love the A9 keychain for example - but can someone please explain how to set up the remote light controls? &amp;nbsp;The world of technology yes is moving fast - and while I dont expect B&amp;amp;O to constantly try to compete with the Sony&amp;#39;s of the world - but hey - only 1 Aux input on my BS3200? &amp;nbsp;So what do I do about my Sat radio? &amp;nbsp;my iPod? my Airport Express? &amp;nbsp;my TV? &amp;nbsp;There is a huge basic functionality which is missing. &amp;nbsp;More and more, yes it looks good (great?) but for the price - there is other art work I can buy. &amp;nbsp;I just want to listen to my music and more and more B&amp;amp;O is having a hard time keeping up.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-michael&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Loosing my religion</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/31468.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:56:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:31468</guid><dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/31468.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=31468</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;saf:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;The &amp;quot;reversed&amp;quot; question goes partially to Pushkin as well: maybe your religion would be back if you had BL5s - and, dare I say that, a better source material.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;I agree with your point saf.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also, Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen isn&amp;#39;t a flawless company (no company is), but it is a passionate and outstanding firm that has churned out an incredible amount of commendable and record breaking achievements - not only in design, but in sound, vision and materials used. I suppose we have to set aside our adoring eyes, at times, and be rational by not always expecting perfection with 100% of these products 100% of the time - televisions mainly, due to the way the technology develops and changes so unpredictably!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;The people who fall in love with, and purchase, these products are also passionate and have certain priorities that B&amp;amp;O truly fulfill. For instance, the lust for style, eccentricity, beauty, detail, thoughtful design etc etc.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>