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If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Do rear speaker make sense in my setup?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334840.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 10:34:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:334840</guid><dc:creator>elephant</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334840.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=334840</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;quader:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would try option 1 &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;agree&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Do rear speaker make sense in my setup?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334828.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 07:52:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:334828</guid><dc:creator>quader</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334828.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=334828</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I would try option 1 &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Do rear speaker make sense in my setup?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334797.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 03:44:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:334797</guid><dc:creator>hotknife</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334797.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=334797</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi guys, so the child is born,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
yesterday I ordered a pair of silver BL4000 (should be MKII from 2009) 
on ebay. Have had a argument with my wife before and I jumped at the 
opportunity because she aggred. She did not like the style of the BL3, 
BL6000, BL8000. A pair of BL4 we had already listened to and my wife did
 not like the sound. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Below please find the photo of the wall where I&amp;acute;m planning to place the 
rear speaker (I&amp;acute;ve marked some options). Any idea regarding style and good sound for rear speaker? I
 do not have any idea if it is better to put the speaker on the rack, 
left and right speaker on each side of the couch or better place it 
straight to the wall. Please bear in mind I have BL9 front speaker and 
BV 8-40 telly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you very much for your help and suggestions and sorry for &amp;quot;wasting&amp;quot; your time. But it is always better to chear different opions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2780/4000t.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Do rear speaker make sense in my setup?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334564.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 03:42:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:334564</guid><dc:creator>DrDimitris</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334564.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=334564</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;hotknife:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rookie,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;why not? If they were only black or gold. But red and also placed &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot; side, I think they look like a little artwork. I like if somebody use things the other way, not as everybody. Good job Dr.redBL4000.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rookie,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;do you think, a little pair of ashtry BL3 in red look much better placed in the mittle of my wall?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hahahaha. Sorry if i was misinterpreted. Although i like red, my BL4000&amp;#39;s are the classic alu with Black frets. I posted the picture to give an impression of a down firing BL 4000&amp;#39;s pair. Not to hint you on the color selection. &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/02.gif" alt="Big Smile" /&gt; Sorry for that. But if we want a more professional opinion on color for your setup Hotknife, when you decide the speakers than we can ask my SWMBO, who is an interior designer. &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/05.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Do rear speaker make sense in my setup?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334530.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:25:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:334530</guid><dc:creator>hotknife</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334530.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=334530</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Rookie,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;why not? If they were only black or gold. But red and also placed &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot; side, I think they look like a little artwork. I like if somebody use things the other way, not as everybody. Good job Dr.redBL4000.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rookie,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;do you think, a little pair of ashtry BL3 in red look much better placed in the mittle of my wall?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Do rear speaker make sense in my setup?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334517.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 13:47:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:334517</guid><dc:creator>Rookie</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334517.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=334517</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i think that&amp;#39;s a &amp;quot;no brainer&amp;quot; ... option no.5 is the way to go ... the ALT of the BL3 will serve you best as a rear.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The BL4000 wall mounted looks like a mailbox to me ... sorry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best regards&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Do rear speaker make sense in my setup?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334509.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 13:22:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:334509</guid><dc:creator>DrDimitris</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334509.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=334509</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;As i also use them in my setup, i think a pair of BL4000&amp;#39;s will be perfect. Far more versatile and since they will be wall mounted, the bass will be excellent. But since the couch is directly attached to the wall, i would have mouted them firing down towards your sweet spot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Like that:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.UserFiles/00.00.00.29.06/beolab_5F00_4000.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Do rear speaker make sense in my setup?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334498.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:47:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:334498</guid><dc:creator>Heribert</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334498.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=334498</wfw:commentRss><description>6000 but standing on the floor turned to your listening position. I like my 6000 quite a lot - slim speaker with good sound.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Do rear speaker make sense in my setup?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334488.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 10:23:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:334488</guid><dc:creator>quader</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334488.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=334488</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;You could fix the BL8000 on a wall bracket and angle the speakers towards&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;your listening area&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have all 4 on a wall but 2 angled &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Do rear speaker make sense in my setup?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334485.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 09:51:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:334485</guid><dc:creator>hotknife</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/334485.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=334485</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6194/dscn0017y.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/433/dscn0016l.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hi guys, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;still have the wish to upgrade my stereo-setup to a surround-setup (my wife not). Please take a closer look at the front and back of the living room. In the past days, I have read all articles regarding rear speakers and mixing ALT-speakers with non ALT-speakers. Even a pair of used BL3 are hard to find under &amp;euro; 2000 and I do not want to burn a big hole in the wallet because I&amp;acute;d like to buy a new B&amp;amp;O telly in 2011. So I`m struggling with given circumstances (room size 22m2 and couch place to the wall) to find the best rear speaker solution for me. I think a pair of used BL are fine.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Option 1: Pair of BL6000 placed left and right of the couch, fixed will wall brackets (I do not think it is working pretty good, because they will point toward the BL9 and not toward the listener.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Option 2: As above, but fixed with wall brackets not at the rear wall, but on the side, pointing towards listener (also not pretty good, because one speaker round 3m away, other speaker only round 30cm).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Option 3: Pair of BL4000 placed on the wall behind the couch (do not think it will work, because my head will be to close.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Option 4: Pair of BL4 (even worser the BL4000 because BL4 incl. wall bracket will point round 30cm into the room, BL4000 only round 12cm).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Option 5. Pair of BL3 paced left and right on the litte phone furniture and CD-rack or fixed with wall brackets (original B&amp;amp;O or better stbbrackets).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Options, option. I`m struggeling with position, size of speaker, ALT + non ALT.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any B&amp;amp;O addicted also having the same problems? Buy the way, keep in mind, I will not buy new furniture to optimize my &amp;quot;living situation&amp;quot; in the room.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Take care.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Do rear speaker make sense in my setup?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/312833.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:29:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:312833</guid><dc:creator>Harry2008</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/312833.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=312833</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Giving your setup, I should really consider or try if possible, the BL4&amp;#39;s. My sitting area is more or less the same as yours, aprox. 3,50 by 4,50 meter and i am using the Beolab 4000 as rear speakers. Sound is very nice, however in movies they are not used as much as you would expect. Or better formulated... the BL4 will probably deliver the same sound quality for movies given the size of the room.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think a combination of BL4 with a Beolab 11 would bring you more benefit while staying within a certain financial boundaries.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think I would mount the BL4 either at the wall or at the ceiling.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Do rear speaker make sense in my setup?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/312696.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 16:54:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:312696</guid><dc:creator>symmes</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/312696.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=312696</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;hotknife:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;O.k. symmes,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;your mounting options, please.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Floor stand, wall bracket, and ceiling bracket used as a wall mount.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Do rear speaker make sense in my setup?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/312661.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 14:06:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:312661</guid><dc:creator>macjonny1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/312661.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=312661</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Why are you set on mounting the speakers behind you with your couch against the wall?&amp;nbsp; Many would recommend that you mount the surround speakers on the side walls pointed at the couch.&amp;nbsp; If you use BL6000 I would mount them as well as the BL4000&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Do rear speaker make sense in my setup?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/312655.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 13:41:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:312655</guid><dc:creator>hotknife</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/312655.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=312655</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;O.k. symmes,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;your mounting options, please.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Do rear speaker make sense in my setup?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/312644.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 12:56:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:312644</guid><dc:creator>symmes</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/312644.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=312644</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I think rear and/or surround is the best use of BeoLab 4. &amp;nbsp;3 mounting options.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>