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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Beosound 8 review</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311731.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:42:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:311731</guid><dc:creator>Step1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311731.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=311731</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry Andreas I was refering to the post above about ICE driving the B&amp;amp;W speakers... I have completly lost interest in where and by whom it is made!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beosound 8 review</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311730.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:39:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:311730</guid><dc:creator>bayerische</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311730.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=311730</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Step1:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am sure this is true but I can find no official mention of this... Maybe I haven&amp;#39;t looked hard enough?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m sure it&amp;#39;s mentioned on the back of the Beosound 8 on a sticker! &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt; Most likely not advertised on B&amp;amp;O&amp;#39;s homepage... &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/02.gif" alt="Big Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m not sweating it over the BS8, it&amp;#39;s a product I will never own, because I can&amp;#39;t see the need for it (for me).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beosound 8 review</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311728.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:15:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:311728</guid><dc:creator>Step1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311728.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=311728</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I am sure this is true but I can find no official mention of this... Maybe I haven&amp;#39;t looked hard enough?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beosound 8 review</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311727.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:56:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:311727</guid><dc:creator>SiliconTi</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311727.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=311727</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I have a hard time dropping US$1,000 on something made in China. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then again, my MacBook Pro was and it was 2x that. Hmm...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beosound 8 review</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311700.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:53:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:311700</guid><dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311700.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=311700</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Whenever faced with an &amp;quot;anti&amp;quot; who gleefully tells you that they have a Zeppelin and that they would never have a B&amp;amp;O product(just styling), remind them that their B&amp;amp;W player actually relies on ICE technology which is made in a little town called Struer&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beosound 8 review</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311694.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:36:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:311694</guid><dc:creator>symmes</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311694.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=311694</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Danes are well known for the skill they bring to bear with a pneumatic screw driver. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beosound 8 review</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311687.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:32:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:311687</guid><dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311687.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=311687</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Paul Winn:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Better quality materials, better speaker drivers and DEFINATELY not a cheap plastic remote! Bang&amp;amp;Olufsen would never have made a cheap remote like that a few years ago!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;Remember the early Beo 4s? Remember the Beolink 5000? Very fancy, but both were built like something from a Kinder-egg.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Paul Winn:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Is it really asking too much for a Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen product to be put together in a Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen factory? I don&amp;#39;t think from such an expensive brand!&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It depends how much you want to pay. If you are a lot of B&amp;amp;O&amp;#39;s target market, then I think it really is quite a big ask!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;d really like to know where your prejudice against equipment made in China comes from. Frankly, it sounds to me like you&amp;#39;ve succumbed to the marketing that being manufactured in Denmark actually does make a difference to the build quality.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beosound 8 review</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311684.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:20:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:311684</guid><dc:creator>SWISS_2</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311684.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=311684</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;In our local store today to retrieve our recently repaired Beosound 3200.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was given a demonstration of the Beosound 8, and ask any and all questions. The sound was very good, but more than a few times I&amp;nbsp;suggested it be turned down in order to have a conversation. Seal never sounded better !&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quite correct as mentioned above, the remote is different and light. Milled aluminum might have been a better and more solid choice of materials. I also agree that the suggestion of the IPhone/Pod/Pad placement on the front of the bridge would have looked much superior. While this in my opinion looks more attractive, it might not have been functionally possible ( read more expensive ) without&amp;nbsp;an engineering workaround.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One concern I do have regards the inevitable and growing use of the IPad; The docking of the IPad atop the bridge feels delicate, and a bit precarious.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As I change the colour plates on our&amp;nbsp;Beolab 4000 speakers now and then, the different colour grilles on the Beosound 8 are a great idea, and ( if Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen is listening ) a great sales tool. I do know of two gentlemen from Brasil that purchased two Beosound 8 units primarily for the sound, but secondarily due to a very sharp salesman placing a green and yellow grilles on the speakers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That was a smart move, the new clients are happy in the Apple and B&amp;amp;O camp, and I would suggest that Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen increase the number of colour choices in the Beosound 8 quiver. &amp;nbsp;Perhaps that has already occurred, just as the number of Beoplayer station choices will soon in the paid Itune Beoplayer app.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beosound 8 review</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311682.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:11:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:311682</guid><dc:creator>Step1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311682.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=311682</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Oh no not again &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/12.gif" alt="Angry" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beosound 8 review</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311677.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:47:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:311677</guid><dc:creator>raveny</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311677.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=311677</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I like the sound of BS8 much more than the Zeppelin... is it just me?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beosound 8 review</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311665.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:16:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:311665</guid><dc:creator>Doctor</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311665.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=311665</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Having seen the drivers used in speakers like the 6000, made in Denmark, I doubt the quality of the drivers of the BS8 have much to be ashamed of. I think it sounds pretty good though I would like to hear it back to back with another good dock.If you don&amp;#39;t like the remote, use a Beo4.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beosound 8 review</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311650.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:30:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:311650</guid><dc:creator>Puncher</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311650.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=311650</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;SiliconTi:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wait a sec... I thought it *was* made in Denmark. Where is it made (I&amp;#39;ve not seen one yet on person)? Please tell me it is not China...&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#39;s a whole other thread discussing the merits (or not) of making the BS8 in China - you may want to search for that one too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beosound 8 review</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311649.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:27:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:311649</guid><dc:creator>Puncher</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311649.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=311649</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Paul Winn:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Better quality materials, better speaker drivers and DEFINATELY not a cheap plastic remote! Bang&amp;amp;Olufsen would never have made a cheap remote like that a few years ago! Is it really asking too much for a Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen product to be put together in a Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen factory? I don&amp;#39;t think from such an expensive brand!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My understanding of the BS8 is that the components are designed and specified in Denmark and produced and &lt;em&gt;assembled&lt;/em&gt; in China. Nothing I have read or heard would indicate that it is a sourced and badged design from another (Chinese) manufacturer. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the above is correct, then assembling in Denmark would result in exactly the same product but with a higher labour (and therefore overall manufacturing) cost. There would of course be some additional kudos to those who believe that screwing it together in Denmark is&amp;nbsp;inherently better than screwing it together in China. Assembling the same parts in a different location will not impact the sound quality!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beosound 8 review</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311646.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:16:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:311646</guid><dc:creator>burantek</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311646.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=311646</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Damned if they do... damned if they don&amp;#39;t...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Buy it... or don&amp;#39;t...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beosound 8 review</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311642.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:06:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:311642</guid><dc:creator>BenSA</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/311642.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=311642</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;This isn&amp;#39;t B&amp;amp;O&amp;#39;s first plastic remote. Quite a few beomasters had plastic remotes...eg Beomaster 8000. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>