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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: A8 subsitutes needed - Help!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310561.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:37:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:310561</guid><dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310561.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=310561</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;9 LEE:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, thanks for that expert advice Gentlemen - the Shure SE535&amp;#39;s it is then.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/08.gif" alt="Indifferent" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lee&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, Lee, you &amp;quot;asked&amp;quot; for it! &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m sure either would work fine.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: A8 subsitutes needed - Help!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310543.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:47:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:310543</guid><dc:creator>burantek</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310543.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=310543</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt; Yep! Definitely something for Lee to sweatily jog/run around/exercise with... particularly on very rainy days!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Logitech though... so they may actually take it! &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif" alt="Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: A8 subsitutes needed - Help!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310533.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 06:54:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:310533</guid><dc:creator>redfresnel</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310533.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=310533</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Affineur:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These are the best I am aware of. They totally block out all ambient sound. They also make a model that allows some ambient in.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://ultimateears.com/en-us/products/18-pro&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1350usd, phew! :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: A8 subsitutes needed - Help!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310514.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 01:52:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:310514</guid><dc:creator>Doctor</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310514.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=310514</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Do they come with their own security guard ? &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt; $1350. I had looked at the ue5 but I am just not sure about multiple drivers in something so small! I think I would look at Sennheiser IE6 or 8s. I actually just bought some more A8s as I couldn&amp;#39;t find anything else easily available in a bricks and mortar store. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: A8 subsitutes needed - Help!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310503.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:52:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:310503</guid><dc:creator>Affineur</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310503.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=310503</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;These are the best I am aware of. They totally block out all ambient sound. They also make a model that allows some ambient in.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://ultimateears.com/en-us/products/18-pro&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: A8 subsitutes needed - Help!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310463.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:49:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:310463</guid><dc:creator>Puncher</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310463.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=310463</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;burantek:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Puncher:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;How much worse could you look!!&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/37.gif" alt="Confused" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/16.gif" alt="Whistle" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/35.gif" alt="Hmm" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This rang &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/p/24784/187630.aspx#187630"&gt;A BELL.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As I said at the time - too flattering!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A bit too slim around the midriff and his right leg isn&amp;#39;t stuck out at the correct jaunty angle!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: A8 subsitutes needed - Help!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310457.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:02:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:310457</guid><dc:creator>burantek</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310457.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=310457</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Puncher:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;How much worse could you look!!&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/37.gif" alt="Confused" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/16.gif" alt="Whistle" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/35.gif" alt="Hmm" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This rang &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/p/24784/187630.aspx#187630"&gt;A BELL.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: A8 subsitutes needed - Help!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310456.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:57:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:310456</guid><dc:creator>Large48</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310456.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=310456</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s the skirt that&amp;#39;s doing it for me!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;:-)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: A8 subsitutes needed - Help!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310428.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:42:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:310428</guid><dc:creator>burantek</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310428.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=310428</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;If you want to try something different: &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.h2oaudio.com/"&gt;H2O Audio&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.h2oaudio.co.uk/"&gt;UK Site too!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I bought wifey (5 time All-American &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/16.gif" alt="Whistle" /&gt;) a kit w/ the case and an iPod shuffle to drop in. Light weight and 100% waterproof. She loves it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: A8 subsitutes needed - Help!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310427.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:41:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:310427</guid><dc:creator>redfresnel</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310427.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=310427</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Puncher:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How much worse could you look!!&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/37.gif" alt="Confused" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/16.gif" alt="Whistle" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can, with Form 1s, even worse with U70s. I&amp;#39;ve tried. :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: A8 subsitutes needed - Help!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310422.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:22:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:310422</guid><dc:creator>Puncher</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310422.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=310422</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Stonk:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;DrDimitris:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My recommendation would be these:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They provide extremely good isolation from steet sounds, and while running, they act as a towel.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Seriously though, others appear to get on with &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&amp;amp;client=firefox-a&amp;amp;q=Sennheiser+PMX70&amp;amp;cid=5257315141284170095&amp;amp;os=reviews"&gt;THESE&lt;/a&gt;. A bit cheap and cheerful probably but lets face it - you don&amp;#39;t look your best when running - &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img height="453" width="604" src="http://forum.beoworld.org/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.PostAttachments/00.00.18.75.75/n569980694_5F00_2198319_5F00_1959288-_2800_1_2900_.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How much worse could you look!!&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/37.gif" alt="Confused" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/16.gif" alt="Whistle" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: A8 subsitutes needed - Help!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310420.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 07:49:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:310420</guid><dc:creator>JC</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310420.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=310420</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I use the Shures myself Lee, they have been superb and no problems in the 18 months I have had them..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jonnie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: A8 subsitutes needed - Help!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310414.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:50:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:310414</guid><dc:creator>redfresnel</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310414.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=310414</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Try these: http://www.koss.com/koss/kossweb.nsf/p?openform&amp;amp;pc^eb^PLUG i&amp;#39;ve heard they are not at all as bad as the price would suggest.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-Olli&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: A8 subsitutes needed - Help!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310396.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 04:44:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:310396</guid><dc:creator>9 LEE</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310396.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=310396</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Well, thanks for that expert advice Gentlemen - the Shure SE535&amp;#39;s it is then.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/08.gif" alt="Indifferent" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lee&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: A8 subsitutes needed - Help!</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310387.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 04:04:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:310387</guid><dc:creator>Stonk</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/310387.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=310387</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;DrDimitris:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My recommendation would be these:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They provide extremely good isolation from steet sounds, and while running, they act as a towel.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Seriously though, others appear to get on with &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&amp;amp;client=firefox-a&amp;amp;q=Sennheiser+PMX70&amp;amp;cid=5257315141284170095&amp;amp;os=reviews"&gt;THESE&lt;/a&gt;. A bit cheap and cheerful probably but lets face it - you don&amp;#39;t look your best when running - &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.PostAttachments/00.00.18.75.75/n569980694_5F00_2198319_5F00_1959288-_2800_1_2900_.jpg" height="453" width="604" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>