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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Why do Loewe and B&amp;O get compared side by side?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/306236.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 20:13:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:306236</guid><dc:creator>Graham1982</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/306236.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=306236</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi all:&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I guess there maybe a little bit of bias on my part - I would feel somewhat disappointed if having spent lots of money on equipment that I thought was near perfect I was to find something cheaper that was better for a number of reasons - style/functionality etc. However, the Loewe I saw both in this charity shop (I agree not the best of settings) and others that I have seen sporadically on eBay really do not seem to be worth the premium price they command.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I do agree however that some of their latest range is more impressive and I did like some of the things on display in&amp;nbsp;Selfridges&amp;nbsp;recently. However, I do think that in some respects (despite others saying that B&amp;amp;O and Loewe are completely different brands) Loewe apes Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen. It could be argued that imitation is the best form of flattery but I seem to remember a particular Loewe CRT being styled like an Avant and this was really not flattering at all.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Graham&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Why do Loewe and B&amp;O get compared side by side?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/306208.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:13:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:306208</guid><dc:creator>Nickyg63</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/306208.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=306208</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I think that B&amp;amp;O have in the past have got by on our loyalties to the brand and hense why they are upon hard times. &amp;nbsp;We are bound to be biased to B&amp;amp;O we are on a forum! &amp;nbsp;I think performance wise they are no longer superior! But in styling they are unrivaled. &amp;nbsp;Loewe make some good looking stuff and I suppose its down to choice, I remain a B&amp;amp;O man!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Why do Loewe and B&amp;O get compared side by side?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/306191.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:11:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:306191</guid><dc:creator>ed7</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/306191.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=306191</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Flappo:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Av forums is a notorious breeding ground for morons , and that&amp;#39;s just the mods . They prattle all day on about the cost of everything forgetting that real value comes from something else apart from the price tag.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Loewe are hardly worth talking about , mediocre wannabee&amp;#39;s at best , laughable copycats at worst.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I could not agree with you more Loewe is a wannabee !!&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/35.gif" alt="Hmm" /&gt;,unlike B&amp;amp;O is the bee&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/07.gif" alt="Unsure" /&gt;,i can see why people jump ship to Loewe out of frustration with b&amp;amp;o but Loewe not for me !!! give me b&amp;amp;o anytime !!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Why do Loewe and B&amp;O get compared side by side?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/306189.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:02:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:306189</guid><dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/306189.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=306189</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;They get compared because they are both pitching to the same market. They focus on design, integration and price themselves comparatively. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They are both good brands. &amp;nbsp;As you&amp;#39;d be aware, all a brand is, is a way of separating your products from others in the marketplace, it&amp;#39;s just the marketing that makes you feel. And if the product on offer is superior in your own mind, you purchase.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Could you potentially be a Loewe hater? Lol. &lt;/p&gt;
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I&amp;#39;m a B&amp;amp;O convert. I also have Bose, but as you get older your instrument is better attuned and this is why I&amp;#39;m a convert.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Why do Loewe and B&amp;O get compared side by side?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/306188.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:59:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:306188</guid><dc:creator>..........</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/306188.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=306188</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ll stick up for Loewe. The new generation of Loewe products are really nice... They have certainly stepped their game up. I think the Assist+ remote even has an OLED display.The CRT generation Loewe didn&amp;#39;t inspre me althought the Mimo series was without doubt pretty.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I own and watch TV on an Individual 32 television which is a nice TV. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, they are *completely* different brands!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Either way, AV Forums is for people that look for different things than the majority of Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen owners so they are bound to disagree. It&amp;#39;s not a site I frequent I&amp;#39;ll be honest!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;B&amp;amp;O/&amp;#39;Lifestyle Audio and Visual&amp;#39; (I hate that term) haters don&amp;#39;t understand the brand or the benefits/magic of ownership so I don&amp;#39;t generally regard their opinions and prefer to leave them to it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Why do Loewe and B&amp;O get compared side by side?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/306187.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:52:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:306187</guid><dc:creator>Flappo</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/306187.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=306187</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Av forums is a notorious breeding ground for morons , and that&amp;#39;s just the mods . They prattle all day on about the cost of everything forgetting that real value comes from something else apart from the price tag.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Loewe are hardly worth talking about , mediocre wannabee&amp;#39;s at best , laughable copycats at worst.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Why do Loewe and B&amp;O get compared side by side?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/306184.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:28:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:306184</guid><dc:creator>Graham1982</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/306184.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=306184</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi all:&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Guess this could be the start of an opinion thread more than a fact establishing one. However, having seen a Loewe CRT &amp;quot;in the plastic&amp;quot; today by chance in a charity shop window I am very surprised that the uninitiated or those that wish to speak unfavourably about B&amp;amp;O band these brands together.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I could have easily mistaken the aforementioned television for a Sony or Samsung of the early 2000s. I do not remember what model it was - it had a silver case and the model was written down the right hand side of the cabinet near the screen. The remote was not particularly inspiring either. If this was a Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen CRT up for &amp;pound;35 in a charity shop window I would have snapped it up. I might even have been tempted to buy the Loewe if it looked like it was worth the effort of carrying it home but it really wasn&amp;#39;t.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I recently joined AV Forums and whist I think it is an invaluable source of information on a whole manner of products, it is also full of B&amp;amp;O haters who provide less than accurate information (in my opinion) about the brand saying things like Bose, Loewe and B&amp;amp;O are lifestyle products and not worth half what the rrp is (not verbatim but you get the gist).&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Obviously not everyone has to be of the same opinion - if they were half of the conversations that people have wouldn&amp;#39;t exist as there would not be a need or desire for the mutual exchange of ideas etc. However, I have never seen such&amp;nbsp;vitriol espoused about an inanimate electronic object or range of inanimate electronic objects as that espoused about B&amp;amp;O and was just wondering why supposedly intelligent and articulate individuals do this.&lt;/p&gt;
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