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Re: B&O and 3D development

Alex — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:23:35 GMT

Flappo:

when they sell a standalone tv , one where it's all in one , they better have all the connections i need , having to stick an after market add on box is just poorly thought out imo

i want a bno tv that allows me to do the following ,. out of the box

hdmi 1 , sky hd

hdmi 2 , apple tv

hdmi 3 , mac mini

is that too much to ask ?

Then get a BeoVision 7 without the DVB module and built in BluRay?

Re: B&O and 3D development

Alex — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:21:07 GMT

TripEnglish:

Kokomo:

Tell me 'Trip', as a matter of interest, are there any 3D TV channels in the States?

In the UK there are and this could have an affect upon its eventual take-up by consumers, just as HD TV channels have helped accelerate the adoption of HD TVs. The subscription based Sky sports channels are very popular in the UK and sports fans have enthusiastically embraced (and paid for) the broadcasts in HD. Now they are broadcasting in 3D, many fans may be very tempted.

Without researching it, I'd say no. I don't know of any channels, but I understand there may be special events that have been broadcast in 3D.

With all of the major cable providers in the US there's literally like 3 or 4 channels and very little on demand offering. Truth be told, broadcast 3D is GARBAGE ... I'll take my detailed, crisp and fluid HD picture if I want to watch a basketball game over the gimmick of 3D any day!

If providers would (and they won't) allow themselves enough bandwidth to broadcast frame packing 3D instead of top/bottom side/side then *maybe* it would be a little more tolerable but since that's not the case it's really not even worth watching.

Re: B&O and 3D development

Flappo — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 05:40:14 GMT

when they sell a standalone tv , one where it's all in one , they better have all the connections i need , having to stick an after market add on box is just poorly thought out imo

i want a bno tv that allows me to do the following ,. out of the box

hdmi 1 , sky hd

hdmi 2 , apple tv

hdmi 3 , mac mini

is that too much to ask ?

Re: B&O and 3D development

vikinger — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 05:34:35 GMT

According to The Times today "Hollywood fears a 3-D disaster as the novelty wears off."

Apparently 3-D vs 2-D sales are falling dramatically so there's a doubt over the long term production of 3-D films (most of which are claimed to be 'God-awful' in an article quote.)

So there may not be many 3-D films to view on expensive 3-D televisions. You might find yourself limited to Sky Sports and Wayne Rooney sticking his fist out of the screen!

Graham

Re: B&O and 3D development

TripEnglish — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 21:26:24 GMT

Kokomo:

Tell me 'Trip', as a matter of interest, are there any 3D TV channels in the States?

In the UK there are and this could have an affect upon its eventual take-up by consumers, just as HD TV channels have helped accelerate the adoption of HD TVs. The subscription based Sky sports channels are very popular in the UK and sports fans have enthusiastically embraced (and paid for) the broadcasts in HD. Now they are broadcasting in 3D, many fans may be very tempted.

Without researching it, I'd say no. I don't know of any channels, but I understand there may be special events that have been broadcast in 3D.

That being said, I think you're right that the two could have been expected to correlate, but at this point I'm pretty skeptical. Only a few months ago I mentioned how 3D was failing to inspire the sort of zeitgeist that swept people into the HDTV/Flat Panel revolution. Now I entertain clients who are asking about integrated apps and streaming video apart from a traditional cable satellite service. These are things that with (so far) less marketing push are already resonating with the buying public.

I'd be very surprised if anyone still sees 3D as inevitable. TVs that operate as online platforms seem much more inevitable and much more likely to drive consumer behavior. I've spent a lot of time playing with Sony's TVs and while they have a lot to work out (primarily that aside from Netflix & Hulu there isn't much worth exploring) it's easy to see that a TV that works this way is clearly the near-term future.

Due to the way that television was always tied to junky commodity hardware as a part of the subscription, the "TV Platform" has seen startlingly little innovation when compared to phones and computers. It's very likely that someone (maybe Apple, maybe Sony, maybe an upstart like Boxee) will disrupt the cable/cablebox paradigm the way that Apple did with the iPhone, making the hardware less of a commodity and stripping it of the type of branding that made it seem worthless and not worth developing.

It will be interesting to see how our upcoming TVs fare and weather the future will be one where the "box" and the TV are integrated or where the TV is more of a monitor that can connect many boxes. I, for one, don't worry about Apple making a TV because they'd likely lock down the platform to exclude (or near as makes no difference) other services that aren't currently integrated into their platform.

Re: B&O and 3D development

rednik — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 17:50:40 GMT

Flappo:

Bno should concentrate on getting other much more important things sorted on their tv's like lack of hdmi's imo rather than going for the flashiness of 3d.

Where is there a lack of HDMI?

TVs are capable of being used with the atlona HDMI matrix, so for anyone doing that more than one is a waste.

People who don't want the matrix but run out of HDMI can use the HDMI expander, elegantly, and with support from a dealer. Where's the issue?

Re: B&O and 3D development

niJinsky — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 13:10:23 GMT

3D BeoVision 7's - both the 40 & 55 inch variants - will be here in a matter of months!

Re: B&O and 3D development

Flappo — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 12:35:43 GMT

Bno should concentrate on getting other much more important things sorted on their tv's like lack of hdmi's imo rather than going for the flashiness of 3d.

Re: B&O and 3D development

RWST — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:11:47 GMT

LOL same here . I still have my "good old" Avant with DVD player and very content with it!. But for about a year now, I have been contemplating to buy the BV10 46" and BluRay. I imagine it would be like upgrading from a VW Beetle to a Porsche Turbo.

But as a Marvel and Bruce Lee fan, I wouldn't mind to wait for 3D to be introduced to the BV10, hopefully. I just can't wait to see Bruce Lee kicking ass in 3D!

Re: B&O and 3D development

Chrisreunion — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 09:17:56 GMT

It seems that a new BV7-55 is on the way with 3D, it was in another post on the forum..

3D is not for me, I don't even have a BluRay player, but simply enjoy a good picture, and this can even be achieved with an Avant DVD, I think

Re: B&O and 3D development

RWST — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 07:52:57 GMT

Now that the 3D technology is introduced to the Beovision 4, is there any thing known if it will be introduced to the Beovison 10 series? Any one?

Re: B&O and 3D development

koning — Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:49:51 GMT

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Re: B&O and 3D development

Beobuddy — Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:33:10 GMT

BnoBlueBoy:

apparently the new 85" is 3d

Probably this would be the one that make sence, but probably for me not affordable

Re: B&O and 3D development

Beobuddy — Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:24:51 GMT

For me it is a nice gimmick, that's all.

Seen it, found it impressive, but that's all.

I would try (a little bit) to compare it with DD and DTS and sorts of that. It is a nice feature which you use with movies. But for daily use I can't see the benefit.

For the use of the sound (DD an DTS) options you need more speakers of a certain quality to experience the best of it. For 3D I think you need a much larger screen than the average 42 inch used at the moment to make the most out of it.

Add that to the fact that there isn't a standard for 3D at the moment, and I'll wait and see. I can't see the urge to implement it on short base.

There are more examples from the past (CDi, DCC etc) that didn't make it.

About the 3D. The methode used with 2 pictures on left and rightside of the panel doesn't give you the full benefit of your screenresolution and/or full picture. The 3D demo broadcastchannels doesn't give you the same picture (in size) as the 2D broadcasts.

Re: B&O and 3D development

Calvin — Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:06:27 GMT

I'm going to be blunt here, it will be pornography that will make it mainstream. If you look at the development of Video, DVD, Internet Media, it was the porn industry that made these things common and I suspect that 3D will go mainstream when some company starts chucking out LCD panels for your computer and the costs plummet.

Of course ther may be other factors at play; sports will bring down the costs of the cameras and it might be gaming that makes the TV producers jump on the bandwaggon but it wil be pornography that gets the panel costs into the mainstream price bracket