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Re: Beocenter 9300 and Beogram compatibility

cozza — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:12:01 GMT

TX2 does have datalink, it's just not connected due to the factory fitted RCA leads! TX2 uses the same control PCB as the other datalink enabled beograms.

Re: Beocenter 9300 and Beogram compatibility

solderon29 — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:27:12 GMT

I think the Beocentre 9300 could be used with a datalink turntable such as BG3500,4500,6500,7000.These all have the RIAA preamp built in,but you need to change the option of the TP2 input to Phono? Remote control of the deck is then possible

If so,you could also use other turntables such as BG3000,5000,5500,85/9500,which are datalink,but don't have RIAA preamps.An external preamp would have to be used here,with a bypass for the datalink,to maintain remote control.

Regards,

Nick

Re: Beocenter 9300 and Beogram compatibility

joeyboygolf — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:36:29 GMT

The 9300 is easier only because most parts are still available from B&O whereas some 9500 parts are not (the CD for instance). Having said that, it is not really an issue since both are exceptionally reliable.

I do like the one without the white trim. Looks less dated in my view.

Re: Beocenter 9300 and Beogram compatibility

kevinoils — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:57:25 GMT

Hi Thanks Graham

I realised after a good look that this is cosmetic rather than a replaceable part, painted on job. Ita not really a problem but I thought it would look much better and discreet with a black trim. Who knows may do this in future. I read earlier that you were saying the 9300 was most likely easier to repair than the 9500 system, do you know of any good contacts for replacement parts?

Cheers

Kevin

Re: Beocenter 9300 and Beogram compatibility

joeyboygolf — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:34:11 GMT

kevinoils:

Hi Graham
I wonder if you can help? I have a beocenter 9300 which has the white line round the perimeter, I have seen other strips on different beocenters but do you know if these can be purchased. I would like to replace this strip if it is possible. Do you know if this is possible?
Cheers
Kevin

I'm afraid that the white strip is not easily replaceable. It is painted on to the top frame and would mean a complete top replacement including all the sliding door mechanisms, stringing etc. Not really viable.

Humbrol model enamel in white is a good match if you want to do a touch up job.

Not all of them had a white stripe, I have one at the moment without it. You could try removing it completely but I would favour masking and touch up.

Re: Beocenter 9300 and Beogram compatibility

Peter — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:08:42 GMT

Unfortunately the parts supply for the older equipment has all but dried up. It is worth asking a B&O dealer as he can search the network on his computer. Trim parts are becoming very rare though so I would not hold out a huge amount of hope. A 'parts' machine is probably your best bet - that is a non functioning 9300 on eBay. Unless someone here has one.

Re: Beocenter 9300 and Beogram compatibility

kevinoils — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:00:21 GMT

Hi Graham

I wonder if you can help? I have a beocenter 9300 which has the white line round the perimeter, I have seen other strips on different beocenters but do you know if these can be purchased. I would like to replace this strip if it is possible. Do you know if this is possible?

Cheers

Kevin

Re: Beocenter 9300 and Beogram compatibility

burantek — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:36:55 GMT

well, amp arrived and i won't bore you w/ the details as installation is about as basic as you can get.

i went w/ the tx2 as i had little use for it (i am trying to go all b&o -so the non b&o receiver it was attached to will likely be leaving). all went well, and i started off w/ "radio" selected and set the volume low. hit play on the tx2 -no problem -switched source to "phono" and... nothing. ok -i bought a preamp w/ a line control for this very reason... i dialed up the preamp and kept going... nothing! -hit the volume on the 9300 and kept dialing it up -nothing but a faint "scratchy-nastiness" from the tx2... stopped everything -redid all connections, and tried other leads to boot -tried again -nothing but the same again and again. finally -replaced my known good mmc3 w/ a known good mmc2 -PRESTO! my mmc3 had gone bad!

so in conclusion...

pros: the preamp i selected works just fine! was not terribly expensive, and paired my tx2 to my 9300.

cons: none really, -except that even w/ the line control, the tx2 is about ~2 bars of volume behind all other sources even at max on the preamp -not perfect but not bad for the money. -perhaps a better. more expensive preamp would solve that, but... that will be another story... oh, and i found out that my poor mmc3 is no more...

Re: Beocenter 9300 and Beogram compatibility

Medogsfat — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:51:37 GMT

burantek:
ran into this very situation a few minutes ago... any suggestions for the external amp? i will be connecting a bc9300 to a bg5500.

i have looked at a few on ebay... all seem to have rca jacks, are there any out there with dins? if not i may use a tx2 turntable w/ the rca leads and ground wire to the amp and then a din to rca lead from the amp to the bc9300.

This seems to be a common problem in the US, all BG5500's (indeed most beograms except the TX2 and one or 2 others which were sold as stand alone items) were fitted with DIN plugs at the time of manufacture. It appears that many in the US have been converted to RCA to connect with other non - B&O equipment which doesn't happen often in the UK & Europe. I have never really undertood why people butcher thes as it is far simpler and cheaper to use an adaptor cable The TX2 is identical in every way to the BG5500/5005 except it wasn't fitted with datalink and they seem to sell for less. To be honest you've made the right choice with the TX2 as it means less hassle with adaptor leads and I believe the BC9300 doesn't support datalik remote control in any case (although I could be wrong on this last point).

Chris.

Re: Beocenter 9300 and Beogram compatibility

burantek — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:39:02 GMT

well, i could not sit still. i have sourced a TCC TC-750LC phono preamp.

i have decided to go with connecting the tx2 as it has the rca outputs and ground, and frankly looks better w/ the bc9300.

it should be here shortly. i will report back w/ the results.

Re: Beocenter 9300 and Beogram compatibility

burantek — Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:50:56 GMT

ran into this very situation a few minutes ago... any suggestions for the external amp? i will be connecting a bc9300 to a bg5500.

i have looked at a few on ebay... all seem to have rca jacks, are there any out there with dins? if not i may use a tx2 turntable w/ the rca leads and ground wire to the amp and then a din to rca lead from the amp to the bc9300. also -any word on the possible development of a kit as mentioned earlier in this thread?

thanks in advance...

Re: Beocenter 9300 and Beogram compatibility

joeyboygolf — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:28:37 GMT

I think the datalink on the 9300 does recognise a phono deck but your problem will be modding the cables to continue tne datalink around the RIAA pre amp. I know it's possible 'cos I've done it with some cables specially made for the job by one of the members on the old forum.

Reply to your next question.........errr, I'm thinking! If it comes to me I'll let you know!!!!!!!

Re: Beocenter 9300 and Beogram compatibility

Lineup — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:54:36 GMT

Peter & Graham,

Thanks for the advice. I was aware that the 9300 was inferior to the 9500 but not too many of these old systems become available. I have the old MCL links for 2 additional sets of speakers and would prefer not to have to re-configure everything so a newer Beocenter seemed like the best option. I am not a fan of the current B & O audio range from an aesthetics point of view with the exception of the 6 CD changer. The likelihood of another deck coming up is remote so getting an external RIAA is probably my only option. Will the 9300 still drive the deck via the remote or is that functionality lost with the BC9300 also?

Regards

Lineup

Re: Beocenter 9300 and Beogram compatibility

joeyboygolf — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:29:39 GMT

The only reason to disagree with Peter is that you probably have a little more life expectancy with a 9300 and certainly more chance of getting the 9300 repaired if neccessary.

Re: Beocenter 9300 and Beogram compatibility

Peter — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:58:42 GMT

The 9300 does not have a RIAA. Therefore you either need an external one or change the deck. I would strongly counsel looking for a 9500 instead which was better in many ways and which will obviously work with your 9500. The 9300 is essentially an Ouverture in a 9000 box using the 9000 power amplifiers. The 9500 is much more complete!