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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Was looking for...</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302204.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:07:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:302204</guid><dc:creator>beocool</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302204.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=302204</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;9 LEE:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;tournedos:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There will always be people who think it makes a difference...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, and they &lt;strong&gt;&lt;i&gt;do&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;... &amp;nbsp;when your credit card statement arrives.. &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;

&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;


&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Was looking for...</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302202.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:39:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:302202</guid><dc:creator>Blackrix</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302202.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=302202</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;If you want a difference, use a mains filter. I have seen the difference on an LCD screen with and without external mains filter. After that we tried the same mains filter on an Avant. Then we could not notice a difference. So something like a mains filter can make a difference, but not if the mains filtering in your equipment is allready good!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Was looking for...</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302200.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:34:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:302200</guid><dc:creator>vikinger</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302200.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=302200</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Doctor:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course what you really need is &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.dedicatedaudio.com/inc/sdetail/24044"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; - no point messing around with cheap rubbish. If used with a kettle, the water molecules all line up and will stir the tea for you. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Presumably buyers of this stuff don&amp;#39;t think about the 150km of HV cable to their local substation, then the final 1km, then the wires in the house..... &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/35.gif" alt="Hmm" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I once went to a dinner where the guest speaker (a former Chief Constable) read from a 1920&amp;#39;s police manual about what to do when your police horse started dancing around on the road due to main current leakage! Electricity supply has moved on a little, but not so much that playing with the final 1m of cable could make any difference!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Graham&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Was looking for...</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302143.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 04:04:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:302143</guid><dc:creator>hemenex</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302143.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=302143</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Easy way of DIY:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Plug in mains cord and short circuit the other plug&amp;#39;s wires - this will have both effects:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;a). the cable will definitely have its &amp;quot;burn-in&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;b). YOU look like Lee&amp;#39;s picture in his post above&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/04.gif" alt="Stick out tongue" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;hx&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Was looking for...</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302135.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 02:02:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:302135</guid><dc:creator>Doctor</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302135.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=302135</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Of course what you really need is &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.dedicatedaudio.com/inc/sdetail/24044"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; - no point messing around with cheap rubbish. If used with a kettle, the water molecules all line up and will stir the tea for you. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Was looking for...</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302116.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:35:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:302116</guid><dc:creator>9 LEE</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302116.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=302116</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;tournedos:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;... send your 
cables away to be &amp;quot;burnt-in&amp;quot;....&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Was looking for...</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302114.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:28:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:302114</guid><dc:creator>tournedos</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302114.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=302114</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;9 LEE:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Exactly how the Dickens do you &amp;#39;burn in&amp;#39; a
 Fig-8 mains cable - and how noticeable is the &amp;#39;performance&amp;#39; of a fresh 
one as opposed to one that&amp;#39;s been &amp;#39;burnt in&amp;#39; ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, 
it&amp;#39;s a big business! You can even buy cable burn-in devices, or if you 
don&amp;#39;t want to do that yourself because your kitchen isn&amp;#39;t a clean room 
op or your mains supply hasn&amp;#39;t been blessed by the Pope, send your 
cables away to be &amp;quot;burnt-in&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The sound will be so much better after that. Don&amp;#39;t forget the support poles for the cable.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Was looking for...</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302113.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:18:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:302113</guid><dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302113.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=302113</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;That article about the Magic Audio ICE Power monoblock amps had a lot to say about these things... the ones mentioned were said to cost $850... I think the amp itself&amp;nbsp;listed for $3,000.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/37.gif" alt="Confused" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Was looking for...</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302112.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:09:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:302112</guid><dc:creator>9 LEE</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302112.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=302112</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;tournedos:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There will always be people who think it makes a difference...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, and they &lt;strong&gt;&lt;i&gt;do&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;... &amp;nbsp;when your credit card statement arrives.. &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;.. and being a bit dim - I really don&amp;#39;t understand this statement...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;The leads were taken in part exchange so have been well burnt in..&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Exactly how the Dickens do you &amp;#39;burn in&amp;#39; a Fig-8 mains cable - and how noticeable is the &amp;#39;performance&amp;#39; of a fresh one as opposed to one that&amp;#39;s been &amp;#39;burnt in&amp;#39; ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s a sodding mains cable !!!!!!!! &amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/34.gif" alt="Super Angry" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry - i&amp;#39;m getting a bit carried away here. &amp;nbsp;My apologies....&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Was looking for...</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302111.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:09:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:302111</guid><dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302111.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=302111</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/36.gif" alt="Ick!" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now there&amp;#39;s a way to help your business go backwards!! Fig 8 cables here are about $5 or $6&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Was looking for...</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302110.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:08:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:302110</guid><dc:creator>tournedos</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302110.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=302110</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;There will always be people who think it makes a difference &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/06.gif" alt="Sad" /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Was looking for...</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302109.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:00:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:302109</guid><dc:creator>9 LEE</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/302109.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=302109</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I always try and send out brand new &amp;#39;Fig-8&amp;#39; mains cables when i sell products - and we&amp;#39;re running low..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, i thought i&amp;#39;d have a quick look to see if anyone was selling good quality ones in bulk, online, at sensible prices. Business logic and all that. But... i also thought i&amp;#39;d look at expensive power leads (and remember they are just plain old power leads - from the mains to your piece of B&amp;amp;O) - and i thought &amp;pound;9.95 was expensive when i saw one on eBay.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However....... &amp;nbsp;have a look at&lt;a title="huh?!" href="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ISOTEK-SUPREME-MAINS-LEAD-FURUTECH-FIG-8-GOLD-PLUG-/150513911938?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&amp;amp;hash=item230b540882#ht_1863wt_1141"&gt; this&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a title="huh?!" href="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ISOTEK-SUPREME-MAINS-LEAD-FURUTECH-FIG-8-GOLD-PLUG-/150513911938?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&amp;amp;hash=item230b540882#ht_1863wt_1141"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>