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Re: Beosound 8: Let´s talk about AIRPLAY!

PhilLondon — Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:58:08 GMT

It is quite amazing now, with airplay, the iPhone is not only a 2 way remote control, it also becomes the source of music!

I am sure AirPlay will be a success in a year or 2.

Re: Beosound 8: Let´s talk about AIRPLAY!

Raeuber — Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:34:57 GMT

jc:

I don't want to put a PC on and use iTunes when playing music. In fact I don't want to use Apple or a computer at all. So hopefully B&o comes up with there own network-system.

Exactly this would be the trick if Beosound 8 has airplay: You don´t need to put a PC on when playing music, you only start the song from your IPod/IPad and the song would be streamed directly to Beosound 8!

/Räuber

Re: Beosound 8: Let´s talk about AIRPLAY!

jc — Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:05:48 GMT

Is this still a B&o forum? Am I the only one who thinks Apple is enormously overrated, very user-unfriendly (iTunes!). I prefer Windows Media player.

I don't want to put a PC on and use iTunes when playing music. In fact I don't want to use Apple or a computer at all. So hopefully B&o comes up with there own network-system.

Re: Beosound 8: Let´s talk about AIRPLAY!

PhilLondon — Sat, 13 Nov 2010 01:59:36 GMT

Michael:
The only benefit of having airplay vs airport express is that the wireless is built in.

Just a few precisions on the advantages of integrated AirPlay over Airport express.

With Integrated AirPlay:

you do not use the so-so DAC of the AirPort express,
the volume slider on the iPhone controls the actual device volume, rather than sending a lower signal,
and more importantly, the remote control commands are passed by the device back to the iPhone or iTUnes. Let's say you press the UP key on your Beo4 or Beosound 8 remote, and the Beosound 8 receives it and sends a signal to iTunes or the iPhone that will make it skip to the next song.

Re: Beosound 8: Let´s talk about AIRPLAY!

Michael — Sat, 13 Nov 2010 01:22:16 GMT

The only benefit of having airplay vs airport express is that the wireless is built in. I use an airport express with a digital optical cable at one end for my stereo receiver and a 3.5 size at the other (digital, not analogue) plugged in to the airport express.

I guess B&O would have known about airplay because companies like Apple need companies like B&O to adopt it in their products. I would also suggest that the licencing fees would be outrageous for B&O. Which kind of reminds me why apple doesn't integrate HDMI (they don't want to pay). Apple is too closed and I agree with Trip's comments earlier about integrating this kind of tech.

Can't wait to touch one in the flesh and listen to it.

Re: Beosound 8: Let´s talk about AIRPLAY!

PhilLondon — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:21:03 GMT

Airplay for audio is the same as the old AirTunes. It's been there for a few years now and its specs are stable.

Re: Beosound 8: Let´s talk about AIRPLAY!

cooldude — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 07:57:14 GMT

PhilLondon:

I think they were not even aware of AirPlay until it was announced by Apple a few weeks ago.

Airplay has not even launched yet .....

Never mind all the tweaking and updating that apple will need to do afterwards before it will be fully stable.

Re: Beosound 8: Let´s talk about AIRPLAY!

rgbyhkr — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 07:53:18 GMT

Realistically, after Apple's announcement, any product in a category where other models offer AirPlay is going to have the same problem. Even the preferred partners like iHome and B&W who have committed to AirPlay compatibility will have to try and sell the non-AirPlay units in the interim. My gut feeling is that no current dock will be AirPlay upgradeable (save for the extra box add-on of an AE unit) and customers who desire direct integration will have to wait for next gen models to appear in 2011. I would expect CES to be chock full of AirPlay compatible prototypes and future product announcements. Audyssey is in the same boat with the South of Market Dock, having revealed and now launched it very shortly after the AirPlay announcement. I asked them directly and they said that they are looking into AirPlay for future products, but the current SoM dock will remain as is. Like others here though, my guess is that B&O will not upgrade the 8 to include AirPlay soon, or even at any point in the future.

Jeff

Re: Beosound 8: Let´s talk about AIRPLAY!

PhilLondon — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 07:13:24 GMT

I think they were not even aware of AirPlay until it was announced by Apple a few weeks ago.

Re: Beosound 8: Let´s talk about AIRPLAY!

soundproof — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 07:04:00 GMT

Asking for Airplay from B&O is akin to asking the French to provide German cuisine before their own, I would think. B&O does have its own interconnectivity solution, and Airplay would be chewing right into it ...

The fact that they've managed to do what they should have done four years ago, create an iPod dock, is a miracle. I wouldn't dare ask for more.

Re: Beosound 8: Let´s talk about AIRPLAY!

folkdeejay — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 06:47:04 GMT

Rookie:

Again the fabulous Sonos could help

-Connect it to the Beosound8

-Play everything internet has to give

-access and play all kinds of drives via the sonos ... it can handle NAS, ipod, ipad, computers ... whatsoever.

-control everything via the superb sonos app ... using an ipad is very favourable and gives you the largest remote you can have for decent money ... don't buy the sonos remote controller, it's not faster or better, but nearly as expensive as an ipad.

The Sonos ZP90 costs around 300.-€ ... i would have expected such an invention from B&O ... it is Beolink 3.0 for me.

Best regards

Some good points here......

Re: Beosound 8: Let´s talk about AIRPLAY!

Rookie — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 05:26:55 GMT

Again the fabulous Sonos could help

-Connect it to the Beosound8

-Play everything internet has to give

-access and play all kinds of drives via the sonos ... it can handle NAS, ipod, ipad, computers ... whatsoever.

-control everything via the superb sonos app ... using an ipad is very favourable and gives you the largest remote you can have for decent money ... don't buy the sonos remote controller, it's not faster or better, but nearly as expensive as an ipad.

The Sonos ZP90 costs around 300.-€ ... i would have expected such an invention from B&O ... it is Beolink 3.0 for me.

Best regards

Re: Beosound 8: Let´s talk about AIRPLAY!

Seven — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:49:57 GMT

Airplay is good if you want to stream a limited, short piece of media. What most people do is hours of background music, and for this use case it's a bad solution:

having your iPod/iPhone constantly stream will kill your battery life
the iPod/iPhone hasn't limited storage

A much better solution would be to have a server streaming to your Beosound8, controlled by a remote app on your iPod/iPhone. So your pocket device is using battery when you change tracks or volume and sleeping at all other times, so you still have battery when you're outside and it counts. Plus you get as many track as you can put on your server hard drive.

Here's a my suggested setup: mac server in a cupboard, ipod itunes remote app, apple tv and your choice of b&o speakers.

Re: Beosound 8: Let´s talk about AIRPLAY!

Raeuber — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:56:31 GMT

Denon receiver to get airplay update: http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=26405

When we will read such news from B&O?

/Räuber

Re: Beosound 8: Let´s talk about AIRPLAY!

xegoon — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:50:27 GMT

tournedos:

Seems like the biggest shortcoming of the long awaited B&O iPod dock is that it is an iPod dock.

Yep, and seems that some people simply doesn't read and the only thing that can say is "I want... I want... I want...". What the hell...

Anybody has thought that the iPod/iPhone/iPad is a music container and not really a remote?? What is the BS8: a speaker dock for iPod/iPhone/iPad, so why spend 1.000 € in a product that only has sense with an iPod/iPhone/iPad connected and not connect the device on the dock but control it with this iPod/iPhone/iPad (!!) as a remote?? I think this type of reasoning is simply madness and I also think that an iPod/iPhone/iPad is an expensive remote.

Fortunately, there are a lot of people with real criteria that value the things for what they are and not for what they must be... These people will find in the BS8 a great dock for not only their iPod/iPhone/iPad but also for their wife's, their husband's, their kid's, their lover's, their neighbor's, ...