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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: BeoLab 8000 for BeoLab 8002 exchange used for new</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296647.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 14:53:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:296647</guid><dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296647.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=296647</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I had to visit the homepage to see what you where talking about (for the first time in a least a year).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OMG! I never judge new thing just by a photo. Always want to see them IRL first, but what the heck is that thing below disturbing the picture?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By they way, I save an add for used 8002 and thought that must be the first second hand 8002. But the picture shows an 8000, so the seller just checked the website to see the name. It&amp;#39;s Bang &amp;amp;&amp;nbsp;OLUFSEN!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She&amp;#39;s states she sells the set up with sadness in her heart. But I must say it can&amp;#39;t compete with the sadness in my heart when I see the pictures! Poor things, I hope they will find a better home. [:&amp;#39;(]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blocket.se/blekinge/Bang_Olofsen_29627873.htm?ca=23_8&amp;amp;w=3&amp;amp;last=1"&gt;http://www.blocket.se/blekinge/Bang_Olofsen_29627873.htm?ca=23_8&amp;amp;w=3&amp;amp;last=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 8000 for BeoLab 8002 exchange used for new</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296625.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:00:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:296625</guid><dc:creator>joeyboygolf</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296625.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=296625</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Only if you can hear a difference between Mk1&amp;#39;s and Mk2&amp;#39;s. Personally I can only hear the marketing men at B&amp;amp;O laughing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 8000 for BeoLab 8002 exchange used for new</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296618.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 10:52:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:296618</guid><dc:creator>Doctor</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296618.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=296618</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Agree - I think the 8000/8002 is a gorgeous looking speaker. There have been calls for years to make them ICE powered (I should say not from me ) and I think this is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. I know they thought about just calling the new ones the 8000 - much like they have done with the 4000 which exactly the same thing has happened to. I am sure they will perform in much the same way but would certainly not go and swap. If I was looking for a new pair, I would happily audition a pair of 8002s.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 8000 for BeoLab 8002 exchange used for new</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296615.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 10:32:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:296615</guid><dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296615.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=296615</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The BL8000 just passed 500,000 units in production in the past year or so. An absolute home run.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Its like saying Porsche should stop production on the 911. I mean they have made it for the past 1000 years it seems and this years model looks the same as day one!&amp;nbsp;Looks incredible to most (still!)&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;people just&amp;nbsp;keep buying them...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 8000 for BeoLab 8002 exchange used for new</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296584.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:24:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:296584</guid><dc:creator>PhilLondon</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296584.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=296584</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The new speakers Beolab 5 and 9 have a much better sound, but they are less easy on the eye. some people love them (mostly men) and some others don&amp;#39;t.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think the Beolab 8000 are appealing to more people, oh, and they&amp;#39;re cheaper!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 8000 for BeoLab 8002 exchange used for new</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296580.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 05:35:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:296580</guid><dc:creator>jc</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296580.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=296580</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Beolab 8000 are B&amp;amp;o design icons, but they are design icons from yesterday. Just like a Beolab 5000 is a design icon. In the world of industrial design things move on, and more so in the world of consumer electronics. But B&amp;amp;o stands apart here by their relative timeless design/ philosophy. Nearly every single B&amp;amp;o product is a designclassic or a design classic-to-be. But still I think one can see these speakers are from the 90s. And that&amp;#39;s why I&amp;#39;m surprised the factory still produces them. Like the Beolab 5000 there are much products that could still be produced today, so what makes the 8000&amp;#39;s stand out from it&amp;#39;s design-icon-colleages?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 8000 for BeoLab 8002 exchange used for new</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296568.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 03:33:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:296568</guid><dc:creator>PhilLondon</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296568.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=296568</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;JC, they are still in the range, for a simple reason, they aer their best selling speakers. Their are considered design icons, and you&amp;#39;re the first person I hear saying they are out of date in term of design.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 8000 for BeoLab 8002 exchange used for new</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296567.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 03:22:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:296567</guid><dc:creator>jc</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296567.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=296567</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Frankly, I wonder why the 8000/2 are still around at all after all these years. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If there&amp;#39;s an item to stop in the B&amp;amp;o range it should be these, the styling is out of date to me, these pillar-like speakers are not special at all anymore because almost any other audio-brand as copied the idea.&amp;nbsp;More importantly, sonically, they are not worth the money. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 8000 for BeoLab 8002 exchange used for new</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296566.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 03:20:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:296566</guid><dc:creator>Seanie_230</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296566.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=296566</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I sold my MK1&amp;#39;s on Ebay for &amp;pound;1100 recently&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wont the 8002&amp;#39;s be an improvement over the MK1&amp;#39;s as they match the MK2&amp;#39;s tech spec?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 8000 for BeoLab 8002 exchange used for new</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296539.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 18:12:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:296539</guid><dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296539.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=296539</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Finally, they are on the US website.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wasn&amp;#39;t really expecting them to actually advertise it as the &amp;quot;8002,&amp;quot; I thought that was just for us nerds &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/15.gif" alt="Geeked" /&gt; but thats cool.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think the dot does spoil it a little but it doesn&amp;#39;t bother me that much. The most unbelievable thing they did was leave the dot black on the white fret!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 8000 for BeoLab 8002 exchange used for new</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296538.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 18:07:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:296538</guid><dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296538.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=296538</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;burantek:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;beoberlin:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I wouldn&amp;acute;t call the bizarre dot under the bottom of the textile cover of the 8002 &amp;quot;identical&amp;quot;. Makes the whole thing look totally post-modern. Like the small ball on top of &amp;quot;La Conica&amp;quot;, the Aldo-Rossi-Espresso-Maker made by Alessi. Spoils the design. Sorry, just my 2 cents.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree! Looks like someone broke into the Louvre and glued a clown nose on the Mona Lisa!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hmmm... to make matters worse -it appears that the official B&amp;amp;o pages show photo-shopped versions of BL8000 pics in the various setup scenarios!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;HaHa if you look at the picture of the red ones you&amp;#39;ll see they missed photoshopping those!!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 8000 for BeoLab 8002 exchange used for new</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296503.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 14:25:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:296503</guid><dc:creator>beocool</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296503.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=296503</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;burantek:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;beoberlin:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I wouldn&amp;acute;t call the bizarre dot under the bottom of the textile cover of the 8002 &amp;quot;identical&amp;quot;. Makes the whole thing look totally post-modern. Like the small ball on top of &amp;quot;La Conica&amp;quot;, the Aldo-Rossi-Espresso-Maker made by Alessi. Spoils the design. Sorry, just my 2 cents.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree! Looks like someone broke into the Louvre and glued a clown nose on the Mona Lisa!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hmmm... to make matters worse -it appears that the official B&amp;amp;o pages show photo-shopped versions of BL8000 pics in the various setup scenarios!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I completely agree with you guys.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 8000 for BeoLab 8002 exchange used for new</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296494.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 13:58:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:296494</guid><dc:creator>burantek</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296494.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=296494</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;DOUBLE POST! &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/34.gif" alt="Super Angry" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 8000 for BeoLab 8002 exchange used for new</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296493.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 13:55:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:296493</guid><dc:creator>burantek</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296493.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=296493</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;beoberlin:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I wouldn&amp;acute;t call the bizarre dot under the bottom of the textile cover of the 8002 &amp;quot;identical&amp;quot;. Makes the whole thing look totally post-modern. Like the small ball on top of &amp;quot;La Conica&amp;quot;, the Aldo-Rossi-Espresso-Maker made by Alessi. Spoils the design. Sorry, just my 2 cents.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree! Looks like someone broke into the Louvre and glued a clown nose on the Mona Lisa!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hmmm... to make matters worse -it appears that the official B&amp;amp;o pages show photo-shopped versions of BL8000 pics in the various setup scenarios!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoLab 8000 for BeoLab 8002 exchange used for new</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296492.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 13:39:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:296492</guid><dc:creator>Puncher</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/296492.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=296492</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;avus17:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;tought ice would be a benefit isn&amp;#39;t it then?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Current thoughts are that the amp change is for regulatory reasons (power dissipation in standby) and maybe a cost saving in manufacture. B&amp;amp;O themselves claim that &amp;quot;the sound remains the same&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We&amp;#39;re still waiting for someone to post an objective side by side review of 8000 vs 8002.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you have a spare ~&amp;euro;2500 burning a hole in your pocket, I&amp;#39;d personally spend it on something else&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>