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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: New B</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/298811.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:17:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:298811</guid><dc:creator>tournedos</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/298811.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=298811</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Vertu is designed to be the ultimate luxury item among mobile phones,
 short of some fool covering any random phone with even more gold and 
diamonds. It &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;needs &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;to be expensive to be a credible attempt at that. (It&amp;#39;s a Nokia subsidiary in case somebody didn&amp;#39;t already know).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As
 to iPhones, I think the coolness is wearing out at the same pace they 
become a common item, and it may even be too late over here. None of my 
local friends (except Andreas of course &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/02.gif" alt="Big Smile" /&gt; ) nor relatives have one. 
Last week we had one of our regularly irregular drink... erm business 
planning meetings at a bar, and there were three Nokia N8&amp;#39;s on the table - and it has been available for two weeks or so.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: New B</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/298809.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 10:58:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:298809</guid><dc:creator>vikinger</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/298809.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=298809</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;TripEnglish:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would suspect that Vertu has suffered as much as anyone from the iPhone and the competitors that have sprung up. The cool factor is too much to contend with.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://store.vertu.com/en/product/71/239/Ascent+Ti+Black"&gt;Vertu&lt;/a&gt; seem to have the most user unfriendly website imaginable: difficult to navigate and difficult to actually see the content of some pages. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that their offering (judging by their website and prices) really does illustrate how a company can miss the good aesthetics/ design link and think that they can sell design by comparing a phone with a high powered car &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/35.gif" alt="Hmm" /&gt; and charging a very high price. Would Apple or B&amp;amp;O produce such a design? (Any Vertu owners on this forum with a counter argument?)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Graham&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: New B</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/298757.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 17:30:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:298757</guid><dc:creator>TripEnglish</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/298757.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=298757</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I would suspect that Vertu has suffered as much as anyone from the iPhone and the competitors that have sprung up. The cool factor is too much to contend with.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: New B</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/298742.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 15:01:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:298742</guid><dc:creator>Spiros</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/298742.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=298742</wfw:commentRss><description>It seems quite nice and with Android froyo could be very handful.&lt;/p&gt;Still I use my iPhone, especially now with the Beoworld App, but I would go for this as a second phone!!&lt;/p&gt;Interesting design.....&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: New B&amp;O Mobile Phone Partner: Lumigon T1 Smartphone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/298734.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 13:46:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:298734</guid><dc:creator>vikinger</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/298734.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=298734</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The Lumigon is late but &lt;a href="http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/lumigon-t1-android-phone-is-a-universal-remote-too-50001255/"&gt;about to arrive&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Claims to be a universal remote too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pcworld.com/article/208544/danish_androidbased_phone_comes_with_bang_and_olufsen_sound.html"&gt;PC World&lt;/a&gt; say it will be abouy 500 euros plus taxes, so may be &amp;pound;500-&amp;pound;550 inc in the UK.&amp;nbsp; At those sort of prices it&amp;#39;s going to have to be good to go against the latest unlocked&amp;nbsp; iPhones. I suspect they have an uphill task, although many on this forum will be attracted by the ICEpower and good looks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Graham&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: New B&amp;O Mobile Phone Partner: Lumigon T1 Smartphone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/292092.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:34:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:292092</guid><dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/292092.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=292092</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Michael:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe because one looked like a makeup case and not very technically competitive&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I like my make up case, thank you very much! &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: New B&amp;O Mobile Phone Partner: Lumigon T1 Smartphone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/291915.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:44:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:291915</guid><dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/291915.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=291915</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;jk1002:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Obviously not since Serene and Serenata didn&amp;#39;t sell.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe because one looked like a makeup case and not very technically competitive&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: New B&amp;O Mobile Phone Partner: Lumigon T1 Smartphone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/291753.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:45:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:291753</guid><dc:creator>jk1002</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/291753.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=291753</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;And people who purchase hi end equipment such as B&amp;amp;O want to have a high end phone that&amp;#39;s exclusive? &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obviously not since Serene and Serenata didn&amp;#39;t sell. I think this will be a very tough market between Apple, Google, RIM and whoever else is there. Vertu is covering the premium market.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ice Power is just another B&amp;amp;O unit like they also sell medical devices.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: New B&amp;O Mobile Phone Partner: Lumigon T1 Smartphone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/291720.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 05:46:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:291720</guid><dc:creator>Chrisreunion</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/291720.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=291720</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;By the way, did you notice that the Serene is gone from the official B&amp;amp;O website?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Looks like there are no more B&amp;amp;O cell phones now..only the handsfree kits..for non B&amp;amp;O phones! &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/03.gif" alt="Surprise" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: New B&amp;O Mobile Phone Partner: Lumigon T1 Smartphone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/291703.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 04:22:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:291703</guid><dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/291703.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=291703</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Marc:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I really do not understand why B&amp;amp;O is still trying to get to grips in the mobile phone market&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Isn&amp;#39;t it because phones are such a lucrative market? &amp;nbsp;And people who purchase hi end equipment such as B&amp;amp;O want to have a high end phone that&amp;#39;s exclusive? &amp;nbsp;Or a halo model for people that aren&amp;#39;t in this category to aspire to and be a feeder product for other sales?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: New B&amp;O Mobile Phone Partner: Lumigon T1 Smartphone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/291648.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:07:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:291648</guid><dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/291648.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=291648</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;So is all business between B&amp;amp;O and Samsung mobile done for? I remember google shopping &amp;quot;ice power&amp;quot; and getting almost nothing but cell phone hits. No matter what it was it said Samsung on it &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: New B&amp;O Mobile Phone Partner: Lumigon T1 Smartphone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/291634.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:05:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:291634</guid><dc:creator>tournedos</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/291634.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=291634</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;They aren&amp;#39;t - they&amp;#39;re just selling ICEpower amps to one.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: New B&amp;O Mobile Phone Partner: Lumigon T1 Smartphone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/291631.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:42:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:291631</guid><dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/291631.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=291631</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I really do not understand why B&amp;amp;O is still trying to get to grips in the mobile phone market. They should better utilize their resources within the&amp;nbsp;TV/Hifi world instead of&amp;nbsp;wasting it into mobile phones where others are far ahead and the competition is fierce.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>New B&amp;O Mobile Phone Partner: Lumigon T1 Smartphone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/291619.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:12:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:291619</guid><dc:creator>vikinger</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/291619.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=291619</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;B&amp;amp;O will supply ICEpower chips for the new Danish &lt;a href="http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/bang-and-olufsen-sound-chip-powers-lumigon-t1-smart-phone-50000429/"&gt;Lumigon phone&lt;/a&gt; (Android based.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Graham&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>