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Re: B&O iPod Dock..

gk31ax — Sun, 15 Aug 2010 04:35:35 GMT

Now if only I had a dealer to go and but one of these from.....

Brighton - Closed

Chichester - switched to Loewe

Re: B&O iPod Dock..

Synergy — Sun, 15 Aug 2010 03:44:20 GMT

I would consider one of these as soon as they are available,as I have had two B&W Zeppelins suffer catastrophic power supply failures around the 11 month mark [a known issue,it seems]

However,if B&O want these to fly off the shelf impulse buy stylee then they might want to consider meeting several important criteria:

Priced closer to £600 than £800 [unless it is exceptional sonically with off the scale lust factor/build quality...please no high plastic quotient]

Sound at least as good as a Zeppelin [with good PRAT,better dynamics and easy listening naturalness]

Versatile placement options - compact enough for a bedside table [a la Vita Audio R2i] not too big so as to be limiting and put folk off [like the Zeppelin] easy enough to move from room to room.Wall mountable.

Include a compact,high quality remote that is easy to use in the dark.Ideally with an illuminated display - like a Mac keyboard.Nice enough that when placed in potential customers hand it elicits an immediate buying response rather than "they want £?? for this and it comes with a cheap cr@ppy remote"

Include a DAB/+ module.It's not good enough,especially at a a premium price point,to omit this.We don't want to have to rely on an intermittent network connection when listening to the radio,or eat up tons of our data allowance.

Ability to hook up a Beolab 11.Please tell me you already thought of this B&O I would almost certainly buy the BL11 as an upgrade,assuming they worked well together.

An added bonus would be if the speaker units were detachable and upgradeable with others from the range.The dock unit would have to look good in isolation of course.

With suitable marketing this is a very good opportunity for B&O to get things right and draw in a large number of potential new customers who will invariably recommend to their friends [if they are happy with the quality/design/sonics and ownersip experience]and undoubtedly buy more from the range over the years.However,it may mean not being too greedy on the profit margin front!

Better to have a narrower margin,sell far more units at an 'acceptable' price point.Thus increasing customer base who subsequently buy higher margin goodies and recommend the brand and products to all and sundry.

Excellent reliability with an extended warranty,giving peace of mind to folk who have not had the best experience with other manufacturers.

Can't wait to see/hear the Beosound 8 when it is released.Although I doubt whether many of these criteria will be met.Fingers crossed...

Re: B&O iPod Dock..

Kokane81 — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:48:05 GMT

All I know is this is a def product coming out as the person i spoke to is soughting out projected sales in november for the uk.

Re: B&O iPod Dock..

Puncher — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:05:16 GMT

Looks like it could be similar to a pair of BL4's strapped to an iPod dock - as long as the price relfects this!

A pair of BL3's strapped to an iPod dock for the same money would sell in droves!

Re: B&O iPod Dock..

Chrisreunion — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:46:00 GMT

My guess is that it will look like this.....:

Re: B&O iPod Dock..

Karel Uyttendaele — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:20:52 GMT

My guess at the price is that's it's going to cost more than the current BeoSound 1...

Re: B&O iPod Dock..

Fulgore — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:35:49 GMT

In my opinion it should be a ML product which you can use also as a standalone unit.

just my 2cts

Re: B&O iPod Dock..

jk1002 — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:02:52 GMT

If you look at the history of Ipod docks, they are a somewhat fragile beast, meaning as Apple releases new Ipods or Iphones it may just stop working at some point sooner then later. This is not a product that you can keep around 6 or 8 years, more 3 or 4 if at all.

Your Beolab 4 speaker will connect with pretty much anything that you throw at them .... so I'd say a higher price is not justified. We always justified the prices with the longevity of the product, that is not necessary given anymore.

Re: B&O iPod Dock..

wirralsimon — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:37:09 GMT

The Zeppelin costs around £400

A set of lab 4s (the PC only version) through Apple etc. would set you back about £650

A beosound 1 is about £1300

£600-800 would be perfectly affordable for most B&O customers but it would be a difficult balancing act as all of the current range is much more expensive and this could undermine the market for link speakers etc. if the iPod dock is fully portable within the house.

The current range of new B&O systems is out of my reach but I could easily see myself buying one of these. I just can't see B&O being able to make them in Europe and market them for that price.

Simon

Re: B&O iPod Dock..

PhilLondon — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:36:43 GMT

If it contains speakers, that is rather cheap (by B&O standards...)

Re: B&O iPod Dock..

elephant — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:33:40 GMT

wirralsimon:
sells for £600-800 and sounds good it has the potential to open up a whole new market for B&O.

Maybe it is my UK laptop ... but did these posts really say UK Pounds Sterling 600-800 ?!?!?!?

To me that seems an excessive amount unless it provides more capability . . . . am I wrong ?

Re: B&O iPod Dock..

wirralsimon — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 06:36:00 GMT

beolife:

I for one think that if they launch BS1/BS3 type product then they are barking up the wrong tree.

A product to Integrate an iPod with an existing system is a different product to this one.

If kokane 81 is right and it sells for £600-800 and sounds good it has the potential to open up a whole new market for B&O. Seems too cheap to be true to me unless they are planning a product made in China to directly compete with the B&W Zeppelin and be sold through Apple Stores, Mainstream retail outlets etc.

If that is the case, even if it was to be made in China I would struggle to keep my credit card in my pocket and I think it could be a good way of inviting people into the brand.

Simon

Re: B&O iPod Dock..

stefan — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 06:32:52 GMT

beolife:

Your missing the point, alot of people are not as tech savvy with their music on their network, they are most likely have it on a iPod thats downloaded from a laptop/desktop.

So to be able to link & control a official iPod dock will be a very good solution for B&O traditional customers, lets face it those of us who frequent this site to not fall into that category.

They could perceivably have two versions, one stand alone the other linkable.

I for one think that if they launch BS1/BS3 type product then they are barking up the wrong tree.

My thoughts were just the other way round. I`m thinking of a link device as the BL2000/3500 with ML connection, and as an add on ipod /N.MUSIC and N.RADIO as local source....

BTW thanks to ridax I have a linkable ipod docking station since years - works great with BS7000 & BC9500 and as a local source connected to an MCL2 AV.

Stefan

Re: B&O iPod Dock..

stefan — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 06:25:48 GMT

Beolab1:

Hopefully the sheep will be able to continue their 007 activities. But you never know. Too often sheep end up on kebab skewers, which tends to make them very silent.

They seem to be very clever - they even survived easter. Anyway they have a license to beo.....

Stefan

Re: B&O iPod Dock..

beolife — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 06:18:02 GMT

Your missing the point, alot of people are not as tech savvy with their music on their network, they are most likely have it on a iPod thats downloaded from a laptop/desktop.

So to be able to link & control a official iPod dock will be a very good solution for B&O traditional customers, lets face it those of us who frequent this site to not fall into that category.

They could perceivably have two versions, one stand alone the other linkable.

I for one think that if they launch BS1/BS3 type product then they are barking up the wrong tree.