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Re: How to turn off LOUDN on Beomaster 5500?

tournedos — Thu, 27 May 2010 03:49:40 GMT

Before I got rid of all my non-B&O gear I had a Kenwood pre-amp which had an adjustable loudness (just another knob from 0 to max). That was pretty useful.

The need seems to depend on the speakers as well. On my usual system (BS6500 with passive Pentas) I never use loudness, as the Pentas sound quite full to me even at very low volumes ("20" or so). Which is why I don't subscribe to the theory that you need a huge amp to drive them!

Re: How to turn off LOUDN on Beomaster 5500?

Peter — Wed, 26 May 2010 14:24:23 GMT

That is why the 4401 is so good - a nice Linear button which bypasses all the filters!

For a nicely designed loudness control, go and have a look at the service manual of the Beolab 5000 amplifier. It has graphs showing how the boost decreases with increasing volume.

Re: How to turn off LOUDN on Beomaster 5500?

joeyboygolf — Wed, 26 May 2010 12:46:15 GMT

As a re-seller of B&O audio systems, quite a number pass through my hands.

You would be amazed at the proportion that come to me with maximum bass and treble boost selected and loudness ON. I would estimate at least 50% and probably a good deal higher. Obviously come from an audiophile household!!

Having reset the tone controls to flat and loudness off I then order a new pair of tweeters for the speakers!!

Re: How to turn off LOUDN on Beomaster 5500?

Evan — Wed, 26 May 2010 12:40:13 GMT

Okay, I was feeling alone with all of the posts and threads about not using loudness. The sound is just so much better to me.

I prefer the loudness on my BM3000-2 as compared to my BM4500 (I only have active speakers attached, not much of a diference on or off). The manual for the 3000 says it cuts off at volume level 4. Does it actually taper off?

Re: How to turn off LOUDN on Beomaster 5500?

Dmitry — Wed, 26 May 2010 11:26:55 GMT

tournedos:

evman140:

Is there anyone who prefers LOUDN on?

Me with some of the vintage kit. It works for the purpose it was designed to, which is to compensate for the properties of the ear when you can't or don't want to use much volume. With most of the receivers/amps I'd like it to "back off" a bit faster when adding volume, though.

Agree- the function is very useful, when listening quiet in the evening, for example (if you've got a flat), but would be good to have the adjustments of how Loudness goes off with raising volume.

Re: How to turn off LOUDN on Beomaster 5500?

tournedos — Wed, 26 May 2010 09:56:02 GMT

evman140:

Is there anyone who prefers LOUDN on?

Me with some of the vintage kit. It works for the purpose it was designed to, which is to compensate for the properties of the ear when you can't or don't want to use much volume. With most of the receivers/amps I'd like it to "back off" a bit faster when adding volume, though.

Re: How to turn off LOUDN on Beomaster 5500?

Evan — Wed, 26 May 2010 09:09:03 GMT

Is there anyone who prefers LOUDN on?

Re: How to turn off LOUDN on Beomaster 5500?

Dmitry — Wed, 26 May 2010 04:07:06 GMT

BUSTED!!!

The LOUDNESS can be turned off with Beo4:

1) Press LIST until A.SETUP appears, and press Go;

2) Press LIST until LOUDNSS appears, and press GO to switch it on or off;

3) Press LIST until S.STORE appears, and press GO to store the chosen sound adjustments (the volume level is also saved)

The sound with Loudness off is simply fantastic in comparison- it seems, the LOUDNESS is made via very simple sound processor, that makes the sound a bit synthetic- adhusting BASS and TREBLE is quite fine about the sound influence.

Thanks a lot to everyone!

Re: How to turn off LOUDN on Beomaster 5500?

Dmitry — Tue, 25 May 2010 06:13:39 GMT

Have found all instructions for all units- hang on, Beomaster- it's BeoBuster coming!

Re: How to turn off LOUDN on Beomaster 5500?

Dmitry — Tue, 25 May 2010 05:32:36 GMT

tournedos:

I'm not with my BM5500 now so can't verify, but it should be possible with Beo4...

Use LIST until you see A.SETUP, then GO

LIST to LOUDNSS, then each press of GO should toggle loudness on/off

LIST to S.STORE, press GO and the current settings (including tone/volume/loudness) should be stored in memory

Finally, switch the Beomaster off & on to see that the setting really stays off before returning the remote

The backup battery is buried inside the metal shields on the CPU module, which in turn is buried rather deep behind the front panel in the Beomaster, and as a final nuisance the battery is soldered in. I heartily do not recommend going there unless you are experienced with electronics.

Thanks a lot!

Will try that this tonight- I'm gonna win that Loudness anyway...! R-r-r-rrrrrrrrr!

Re: How to turn off LOUDN on Beomaster 5500?

Dmitry — Tue, 25 May 2010 05:30:18 GMT

Dillen:

How about Shift-Sound ?

Martin

On BL1000 nothing happens this way.

Re: How to turn off LOUDN on Beomaster 5500?

Dillen — Tue, 25 May 2010 05:22:08 GMT

How about Shift-Sound ?

Martin

Re: How to turn off LOUDN on Beomaster 5500?

tournedos — Tue, 25 May 2010 05:14:33 GMT

I'm not with my BM5500 now so can't verify, but it should be possible with Beo4...

Use LIST until you see A.SETUP, then GO
LIST to LOUDNSS, then each press of GO should toggle loudness on/off
LIST to S.STORE, press GO and the current settings (including tone/volume/loudness) should be stored in memory
Finally, switch the Beomaster off & on to see that the setting really stays off before returning the remote

The backup battery is buried inside the metal shields on the CPU module, which in turn is buried rather deep behind the front panel in the Beomaster, and as a final nuisance the battery is soldered in. I heartily do not recommend going there unless you are experienced with electronics.

Re: How to turn off LOUDN on Beomaster 5500?

Dmitry — Tue, 25 May 2010 04:58:16 GMT

Taken a Beo4 from a friend- is it possible to do something with that stubborn LOUDNESS with it?

He also has a Beo5, which I also can lend for a couple of days.

How does that backup battery looks? I'm ready to pick it out, but still a little afraid not to damage the system.

Thanks!!!

Re: How to turn off LOUDN on Beomaster 5500?

tournedos — Wed, 19 May 2010 03:40:33 GMT

Correct, unfortunately. Without a suitable remote, the only way to reset loudness is to open up the Beomaster and temporarily remove the backup battery from inside the CPU module!

You could of course consider getting yourself an MCP or an older Beolink 1000 (with reset button) from fleaBay or something, neither are very expensive. The MCPs aren't too good for daily use, but make a great conversation piece!