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Re: BV10-46, any feedback?

elephant — Fri, 14 May 2010 22:50:57 GMT

dual link master

um what's that ?

(being lazy today sorry)

Re: BV10-46, any feedback?

elephant — Fri, 14 May 2010 22:50:02 GMT

TripEnglish:
One interesting thing about my shop versus the others I've seen is that I play a single source on all the TVs at the same time. Gives the shop a nice calm look. Anyways, you can easily look at a single wall and see a BV7-40, BV7-55, and BV10-40.

IMHO that is exactly how all B& stores should be set up!

I think I only saw one store like that once and it was not in Australia -- (somewhere in Asia I think, my memory is failing !!!)

So I applaud you Trip on doing it the right way to make the decision making process easy

Re: BV10-46, any feedback?

TripEnglish — Fri, 14 May 2010 21:49:28 GMT

I see there's a little questioning about the advantages of the BeoSystem 3. They're the same as they've always been, but the most surprising is that no one is perceiving the blatant PQ difference between the BV7 & BV10!

One interesting thing about my shop versus the others I've seen is that I play a single source on all the TVs at the same time. Gives the shop a nice calm look. Anyways, you can easily look at a single wall and see a BV7-40, BV7-55, and BV10-40. The PQ on the BV10-40 & 46 is no where near what it is on the BV7-40 & 55. This is partially due to the edge-lit v. back-lit difference and partially due to the inclusion of the full BeoSystem 3. Colors on the BV10 are not as accurate, blacks are no-where near as deep or nuanced, and motion is significantly choppier. Still better than its Samsung brothers & sisters, but can't hold a candle to the BV7-55. Of course if you're watching two different things it's harder to see that difference.

Back to the BeoSystem 3:

7.2 v. 5.1

Dual viewing mode with two separate sound stages

More source inputs

More PQ horsepower (this is the most valuable in my opinion)

Dual link master

AST

Mux out

All that being said, I've repeatedly argued for a scaled down version like the one built into the BV10 or BV8-40 to be sold as a standalone product for 3rd party screens. So I'm not saying this to somehow counter anyone who's commented on its usefulness. Many people don't need the home cinema related advantages it offers.

Re: BV10-46, any feedback?

elephant — Fri, 14 May 2010 21:00:50 GMT

Moxxey posed the teaser about the purpose of the BS3 ... I would have said:

integrated support for projector
sound stage rotation (part of the above)

but what else ? Apart from Raeuber's rumour that is

Raeuber:
I was told a hard disc is coming before christmas, but only for the TVs based on Beosystem 3

Re: BV10-46, any feedback?

Puncher — Fri, 14 May 2010 11:16:25 GMT

LifeStyle:

If so, will it be available until the end of this year? I wonder if B&O will produce a 10-50, who would then buy the 7-55 or the 4-50..?

If they stick with Samsung edge lit panels then it would have to be 55", there isn't a 50".

Re: BV10-46, any feedback?

LifeStyle — Fri, 14 May 2010 09:58:55 GMT

If so, will it be available until the end of this year? I wonder if B&O will produce a 10-50, who would then buy the 7-55 or the 4-50..?

Re: BV10-46, any feedback?

koning — Fri, 14 May 2010 05:38:13 GMT

I've been told that if the selling goes well they will produce a larger version.

Re: BV10-46, any feedback?

8000 — Fri, 14 May 2010 05:11:39 GMT

Should they produce the BeoVision 10 also in 50 inch??

Re: BV10-46, any feedback?

Raeuber — Fri, 14 May 2010 04:46:00 GMT

Yes, the BV10 supports link setups, but you will need an additional "RF Link Amplifier". It´s only a little box, but difficult to hide if BV10 is wall mounted. This amplifier is also needed p.e. for a BV7, in the past (p.e. for an Avant) it was integreated (better solution in my opinion). Regards Räuber

Re: BV10-46, any feedback?

ToeKneeAus — Fri, 14 May 2010 03:46:37 GMT

Maybe a dopey question - but " the lack of built in rf modulator" ? I thought the BV10 fully supports link setups (it has an RF out to supply video to link systems) ?

Re: BV10-46, any feedback?

kfbilly — Thu, 13 May 2010 22:00:08 GMT

Yeti410:

kfbilly:

Congratulations on getting the new BV10-46. I wonder if you mount it on a wall or on a floor stand.

The 10-46 is mounted on the same floor stand as my 10-40. The big advantage for me was that the back-side of the new 10-46 is black, so that we still could use the black "x".form adapter plate.

I'm also planning to have mine mounted on a floor stand, as I reckon it's more B&Oish and majestic. But I don't quite get what you meant by the 'black "x".form adapter plate. Could you elaborate more or even show us some pictures?

Re: BV10-46, any feedback?

Yeti410 — Thu, 13 May 2010 08:26:44 GMT

kfbilly:

Congratulations on getting the new BV10-46. I wonder if you mount it on a wall or on a floor stand.

The 10-46 is mounted on the same floor stand as my 10-40. The big advantage for me was that the back-side of the new 10-46 is black, so that we still could use the black "x".form adapter plate.

Re: BV10-46, any feedback?

markiedee — Thu, 13 May 2010 08:24:35 GMT

wow that looks really really nice, i would love to watch avatar on that screen with the sound track coming through the bl5s what a setup.

Re: BV10-46, any feedback?

beoair — Thu, 13 May 2010 07:42:20 GMT

Following on from my "I couldn't resist" postThe BV10-46 was delivered and fitted two weeks ago. It was £8000 inluding the wall mount. It is a like for like swap on our wall for the old BV-5 and takes up almost exactly the same amount of wall space as you can see in the photo above. With Sky HD we have three means of receiving TV as it has both an analogue and freeview HD receivers built in. Although we have a white fret it should have been grey and we are waiting for one to arrive.

The quality of the picture is wonderfull (my wife describes it as looking through a window). SD is excellent and a true HD broadcast (HD cameras etc) is outstanding. Compared to the BV5 it is more vibrant with bright whites,black blacks and simply beautifull lifelike colours. I have tweeked the brightness and contrast slightly from the factory settings. Brightness up 2 units & contrast up 1unit. The sound is good although with the BL5 providing most of the output there is not much difference from previously, however the centre channel on a DD or DTS 5.1 soundtrack is much better. I never did get a good centre channel with the BV5 setup. There may be a slightly greater output from the rear channels but that may reflect a newer DD/DTS module in the BV10.

One main disapointment is the lack of built in rf modulator As you can see from the top photo it is the huge black box sitting behind the SkyHD box and supplies the signal for the link room TVs. It slightly spoils the generally clean lines of the overall setup. Also there is still the occasional "comet trail" from fast moving cricket/golf balls. For those of you getting a new SKY HD box, they have only one scart output. Some pins in the scart cable need to be disabled for the link room TVs to work properly (sorry don't know the technical details).

Overall however we are delighted with change.

Best Wishes

Re: BV10-46, any feedback?

Raeuber — Thu, 13 May 2010 05:38:08 GMT

Yeti410:
Hi guys, yesterday I´ve got my BV 10-46 replacing my BV 10-40. The size is quite impressive. The first impression is a brilliant picture quality with a deep black colour level using the Technisat HDS-2 plus. There is absolutly no clouding issue anymore. The software seems to be updated because on the first menu page "TV Configuration" you now have the options "switch-off timer" and "start timer". I will keep you informed. Yeti410

This is because of the actual software version Build 109e, which is also available for the BV10-40. But there is still no ACTIVE timer!