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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
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If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: iPhone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/30219.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:58:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:30219</guid><dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/30219.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=30219</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;One thing that CONSTANTLY gets overlooked within the &amp;quot;tech savvy&amp;quot; community is the value of good software. &amp;nbsp;It really chaps my ass to see people making a &amp;quot;spec&amp;quot; comparison between the iPhone and others when at the end of the day the average consumer is buying this not because of whats more than likely under utilized under the hood. &amp;nbsp;It&amp;#39;s more about integration (iTunes ... best digital jukebox on the market hands down), style (its not that big contrary to what everyone who hasn&amp;#39;t seen it keeps insisting on here) and ease of use. &amp;nbsp;Sounds like the same reasons why we pay so much for B&amp;amp;O, eh?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I bought the phone the day it came out. &amp;nbsp;It&amp;#39;s awesome. &amp;nbsp;Period. &amp;nbsp;8GB of storage is unrivaled for a phone with intuitive software. &amp;nbsp;620Mhz ARM processor, right? &amp;nbsp;Thats the fastest in any mobile device EVER! &amp;nbsp;And the battery life kicks ass for a phone that stays connected to Edge and Wifi as often as it feels like it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And as far as push email like on Blackberry service ... well there&amp;#39;s push Yahoo mail available. &amp;nbsp;I just have my Gmail forward to my Yahoo box and voila ... push Gmail!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This phone has LOADS of good hardware (sans 3G radio which I am missing ... but can certainly live without) ... enough where you can bet on there being a number of enhancements and additions especially around the time OSX Leopard is released. &amp;nbsp;Supposedly the first things due are Exchange integration, Flash support in Safari, A2DP (stereo bluetooth) and more IMAP or Push email services. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ll keep you guys posted on how it all pans out &amp;nbsp;;-)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: iPhone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/29526.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:37:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:29526</guid><dc:creator>SWISS_2</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/29526.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=29526</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;My son decided against the IPHONE, &amp;nbsp;in favour of Nokia N 95. According to his looking into comparisons, the N 95 had the same amount of features as the IPHONE, and a few more.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Alas, the cost he requested we forward to his account, was about the same figure.&amp;nbsp;This despite some subsidy from the phone service carrier advertising the phone. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hopefully, graduation will occur someday soon.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: iPhone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27769.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 07:33:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:27769</guid><dc:creator>355f</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27769.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=27769</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Alex:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;Apparently they make something like a 40% profit on it, but I still think it&amp;#39;s amazing they can supply a piece of hardware like that for under $1000. It&amp;#39;s built to a very high quality apparently, and so far they seem relatively reliable (bar a few problems with speakers being too quiet).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You should get acquainted with buying and manufacturing prices from China! 40% profit for the brand is low. The cost of manufacturing elecvtronics now ( which is&amp;nbsp; of poor quality- as is the i pod!&amp;nbsp;) is very low indeed. To give an idea if you take the RETAIL price in &amp;pound; and take 60% off that you end up with the cost price in $&amp;nbsp; and there is a new investment that intel have a stake in which chips can be made entirely of plastic. This plant , when on song will collapse consumer elecronics prices Als o with apple they chareg every company for the sockets ( which the license) so Every i pod accesorry you see be it made by apple in China or not they get a commision.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Apple is a mind over matter company that makes huge profits from rather poor( from an engineering and quality perspective) products!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;regretabl the trend is being folowed by B&amp;amp;O with the BV8 the price for that product is AMAZING given its a chinese special!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: iPhone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27765.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 07:28:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:27765</guid><dc:creator>355f</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27765.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=27765</wfw:commentRss><description>My view entirely and I posted it previously. No 3g makes it underperform. I was involved with the chinese company making it. My feeling is that this product would not be that accepted if it were any otehr brand. Basically its an i pod and a phone with a poor browser but has a touch sensitive screen. The unit is quite wide. The screen operates i the same way as the LG prada. Im not sure touch screen is the way to go at all!&amp;nbsp; when it comes to i pod the quality is pretty poor, cant replace batteries and I can tell you the returns rate is high for that product. Still its made for next to nothing in china and i can assure you the ipod is to! ( albeit the screen comes from Germany) And the WORST feature NO user replaceable battery!!!!!&amp;nbsp; that makes apple more money for the service centre.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: iPhone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27757.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 06:38:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:27757</guid><dc:creator>symmes</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27757.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=27757</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The same type quirks that get Nokias trashed in the press, seem to get a pass with iphone.&amp;nbsp; Outside of the fluff and the brand, iphone is just not that strong.&amp;nbsp; And because I am an ATT customer with 3 phones, I know how bad the EDGE system is.&amp;nbsp; No 3G?&amp;nbsp; Not good.&amp;nbsp; Text messaging without tactile feedback and 1 finger only?&amp;nbsp; What kid would accept that?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is really, for now, an incredibly cool video ipod with a browser that, by the way, can make phone calls.&amp;nbsp; And for BIG money.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: iPhone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27746.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 06:05:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:27746</guid><dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27746.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=27746</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Most people seem to be flaming it for some of the lacking software features, such as stereo bluetooth support (not the first time I've seen that), but bear in mind this phone is essentially a Mac, it runs OS X and hence can be updated as easily as any other Mac.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: iPhone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27727.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 05:34:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:27727</guid><dc:creator>pedrompinto</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27727.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=27727</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;FYI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Apple iPhone (8GB) CNET editors&amp;#39; review&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;http://reviews.cnet.com/smart-phones/apple-iphone-8gb/4505-6452_7-32309245.html?tag=nl.e729#more&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;HTH&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: iPhone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27712.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 05:10:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:27712</guid><dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27712.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=27712</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Apparently they make something like a 40% profit on it, but I still think it's amazing they can supply a piece of hardware like that for under $1000. It's built to a very high quality apparently, and so far they seem relatively reliable (bar a few problems with speakers being too quiet).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: iPhone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27639.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:58:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:27639</guid><dc:creator>jk1002</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27639.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=27639</wfw:commentRss><description>&amp;gt;&amp;gt;why on earth are they doing this&amp;lt;&amp;lt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is probably for some sort of gadget website. There is a whole bunch of people lustering what sort of processor is used, what battery etc etc ... Wait a few days and Isupply will do the same to come up for the true cost of that item ....&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: iPhone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27633.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:46:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:27633</guid><dc:creator>SWISS_2</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27633.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=27633</wfw:commentRss><description>&amp;quot; 2 Chicks ? &amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; Rather maculine sounding voices there. More like two idiots.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: iPhone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27615.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:38:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:27615</guid><dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27615.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=27615</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Gatex:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is nothing look this &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy20b7pCcrY"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy20b7pCcrY&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;how professionally the 2 chicks are opening the iphone. Very professional.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;why on earth are they doing this? I hope there are no &amp;quot;smash my BL5&amp;quot; videos around there!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: iPhone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27558.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 12:28:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:27558</guid><dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27558.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=27558</wfw:commentRss><description>This is nothing look this &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy20b7pCcrY"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy20b7pCcrY&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;how professionally the 2 chicks are opening the iphone. Very professional.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: iPhone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27547.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 11:59:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:27547</guid><dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27547.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=27547</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;EarSet 2 does work on the iPhone. You will now find EarSet 2 for sale at the apple store.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;and the new headset... think of A8s with a microphone on the cord. They dont have a Y splitter like A8 though, they daisy chain from one earphone to the other so the cord goes behind ur head. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: iPhone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27446.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 04:59:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:27446</guid><dc:creator>®</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27446.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=27446</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Have you seen this video. &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvNujZ3ZDKs"&gt;Man dropping new iPhone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/emotion-41.gif" alt="Ick!" /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also The &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czCCavcnNd8"&gt;PC World tests&lt;/a&gt; Alex was talking about&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: iPhone</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27425.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 03:31:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:27425</guid><dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27425.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=27425</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Actually, PC World tested one, and said it's practically impossible to scratch. Even attempts to purposefully scratch and dent it failed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And AT&amp;T's EDGE network is now faster than 3G. They upgraded it all a few hours before the iPhone was launched, and some people have reported much faster transfer speeds than we initially expected...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>