<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Net conditioner is totaly  waste of money</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27578.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 13:21:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:27578</guid><dc:creator>wonderfulelectric</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27578.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=27578</wfw:commentRss><description>That is true about what you said. Grounding of cables is a great idea but what about the grounding of power amplifiers? An even more expensive solution then a simple power conditioner. It yields great results without any degradation to sound quality. One problem though, how are you gonna remove noise from your power source ? True that power conditioners might slow power delivery but as time passes on they are getting less of a problem. Getting an AC regenerator might even lower the distortion and noise levels throughout the system. Why else will they be used for hifi entusiasts for decades? The main problem doesn&amp;#39;t only come from interference, it also come from the source.&amp;nbsp;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Net conditioner is totaly  waste of money</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27107.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 07:22:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:27107</guid><dc:creator>Bulgarien</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/27107.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=27107</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;In&amp;nbsp;one of the&amp;nbsp;other treads( Beolab 8000 and ICEpower) &lt;a href="http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/24448.aspx"&gt;http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/24448.aspx&lt;/a&gt; there is a beginning discussion about a netconditioner.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;...&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;&lt;em&gt;You can go www.psaudio.com . They are very famous for providing good value. Coincidentally they are using ICEepower with their own unique gainstage for their range of power amplifiers which rocked the American hifi press.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;...&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;Check this out! &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.goldenagemusic.com/swe/hifi/index.html"&gt;&lt;em&gt;http://www.goldenagemusic.com/swe/hifi/index.html&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp; a film were the test the passive PS audio Duet Power conditioner&amp;nbsp;aginst Monster&amp;nbsp;conditioner and more brands.&amp;nbsp;I have order one. It&amp;nbsp;costs 3800 dollars in sweden.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;Click here to see the move: &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.psaudio.com/video.html"&gt;&lt;em&gt;http://video.psaudio.com/video.html&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Then I have to make a warning!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A power conditioner are absolutely not the best solution for better sound!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The main problem can be solve instead &amp;nbsp;with a thrue earth and sheildes power cabel, and that will give real&amp;nbsp;pure sound ,without any waste of the detail. All kind&amp;nbsp;of electric noise are going direct to the ground. This will realy &amp;nbsp;help in all kind of A/V systems and that is a fact!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Believe mee,- I have used (to much) money and time to figure out the best solution to get mine 1000W and 500W ICEpower ampliefers&amp;nbsp;to sound optimal, but only with earth connektion&amp;nbsp;the sound is perfect and fantastic &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The fact is, that a&amp;nbsp;net-conditioner its not a perfect cure. Its&amp;nbsp; not only remove the symptoms, &lt;em&gt;but its &amp;nbsp;olso&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;put some kind&amp;nbsp; of carpet over the sound&amp;nbsp; with&amp;nbsp;waste of many many details! The sound getting darker, and remove&amp;nbsp; totally the life in the music. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Remove instead the main&amp;nbsp;problem&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is&amp;nbsp;much better and much cheaper and the sound will be perfect &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Dont waste your money with these (expensive) net conditioner&amp;nbsp;, get instead a true&amp;nbsp;earth connektion to one peice of the audio system( the earth connektion are&amp;nbsp;then connekted to all signal cables sheild, and then olso change all the small power cabele to a&amp;nbsp;shield &amp;nbsp;types.and connect them to the earth. &amp;nbsp;And if you have time change olso the main power cabel to a shield type and do the same her. There is lot a info about the procedure on the web...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Ps. I have 3&amp;nbsp;different&amp;nbsp;netconditioner for sale...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>