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Re: BeoPlayer/BeoPort/BeoSound 5 & gapless music: where are we?

Chrisreunion — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 03:29:10 GMT

Regarding the ALAC playback on non "IDevices", I came accross an interesting Wikipedia article that I've pasted below:

"David Hammerton and Cody Brocious have analyzed and decoded this codec without any documents on the format. On March 5, 2005, Hammerton published a simple open source decoder in the programming language C on the basis of the reverse engineering work.

The open source library libavcodec incorporates both a decoder and an encoder for Apple Lossless format which means that media players based on that library, including VLC media player and MPlayer, are able to play Apple Lossless files. The library was subsequently optimized for ARM processors and included in Rockbox."

What prevents B&O from using these open source libraries?

Re: BeoPlayer/BeoPort/BeoSound 5 & gapless music: where are we?

Beogen — Fri, 27 May 2011 17:05:44 GMT

Agree! That's why I sold my BS5 and got back to a BC2, I was fed up waiting for an update which will never be released I think.

Re: BeoPlayer/BeoPort/BeoSound 5 & gapless music: where are we?

DoubleU — Fri, 27 May 2011 13:40:50 GMT

Good question! Probably it won't work. But a rock-, classical-concert, DJ-mix, cabaret performer, etc, last for an hour or so. Do you really need MOTS, with these CD's?

Re: BeoPlayer/BeoPort/BeoSound 5 & gapless music: where are we?

jk1002 — Fri, 27 May 2011 09:15:02 GMT

DoublU, how would MOTS work if you rip the CD as one track. If they cant support apple lossless the other good option would be to read that gapless tag in Itunes and filter and handle it in the player software.

Re: BeoPlayer/BeoPort/BeoSound 5 & gapless music: where are we?

Tod Daniel — Fri, 27 May 2011 06:18:21 GMT

Yes i'm saying a £39 apple will do things that dam £4500 out of date box will not. Oh dear, B&O awesome TVs and speakers but apart from BS8, their hifi's are simply out of touch and explains why people won't buy them!

Re: BeoPlayer/BeoPort/BeoSound 5 & gapless music: where are we?

DoubleU — Fri, 27 May 2011 01:12:42 GMT

Seriously, are you comparing an inferior portable player?

Re: BeoPlayer/BeoPort/BeoSound 5 & gapless music: where are we?

Tod Daniel — Thu, 26 May 2011 16:48:57 GMT

OMG this is crazy! Even a £39 iPod shuffle plays gapless and Apple Lossless!

Re: BeoPlayer/BeoPort/BeoSound 5 & gapless music: where are we?

DoubleU — Thu, 26 May 2011 15:53:02 GMT

Back on topic..

Why not rip your CD as one track? It always will be gapless, no matter what format you choose, no matter which (future) player you use.

Ripping a CD this way will also give you a cue-file.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cue_sheet_%28computing%29

Unfortunatly the cue-files are not supported with the BS5. The only downside is that you don't see the artist/title of the individual tracks on the CD. So tagging this big mp3/flac/whatever is the best you can do. But at least your music is gapless!

Re: BeoPlayer/BeoPort/BeoSound 5 & gapless music: where are we?

Karla — Wed, 25 May 2011 16:53:06 GMT

I have an old form of MOTS that is really amazing. I load my music selections in the 9000, turn on the random function, and it plays all the music that I really like!

The other source for music in our house is the music that streams from the computer to the AppleTV2 to the Avant to the ML; and the computer music selection is controlled through an Android phone via an app called: TunesRemote.

Re: BeoPlayer/BeoPort/BeoSound 5 & gapless music: where are we?

elephant — Wed, 25 May 2011 13:20:42 GMT

sjmcguckin:

Karla:
I really don’t have the time or imagination to keep picking out songs

Sounds like you need MOTS

Perhaps he does

In my case I use three other techniques which are pseduo-MOTS:

I have a number of saved "genius" playlists that were automatically created from seeds that were favourite songs - the disadvantage is that the playlists are not automatically updated as I add more content to our library
I can use the automatically refreshed "genius" genre playlists - but there are only 16 of these, and some have disappeared as I have added more and more diverse content to the our library
For a particular song that is playing, I can initiate "genius" mode from that song and listen to that particular playlist (and even save it if so choose)

But not quite MOTS

Re: BeoPlayer/BeoPort/BeoSound 5 & gapless music: where are we?

sjmcguckin — Wed, 25 May 2011 07:39:41 GMT

Karla:
I really don’t have the time or imagination to keep picking out songs

Sounds like you need MOTS

Re: BeoPlayer/BeoPort/BeoSound 5 & gapless music: where are we?

elephant — Wed, 25 May 2011 07:19:47 GMT

Karla:

elephant:

Karla:
Since the ATV2 is connected to the Avant, the Avant is serving as the gateway to the ML and all of our content is moving through our home. The interface is wonderful and the ease of use could not be better.

How do you control music selection in remote rooms ?

So for the delay in getting back to you with a reply to a really good question. The answer: we control the music via mobil phone, back to the computer; but normally we don’t control anything because we set it up with playlists. I really don’t have the time or imagination to keep picking out songs. I simply group them and play them.

what App do you run on the mobile phone ? I use Apple's "remote" app on my iPad

Re: BeoPlayer/BeoPort/BeoSound 5 & gapless music: where are we?

Karla — Wed, 25 May 2011 00:47:01 GMT

elephant:

Karla:
Since the ATV2 is connected to the Avant, the Avant is serving as the gateway to the ML and all of our content is moving through our home. The interface is wonderful and the ease of use could not be better.

How do you control music selection in remote rooms ?

So for the delay in getting back to you with a reply to a really good question. The answer: we control the music via mobil phone, back to the computer; but normally we don’t control anything because we set it up with playlists. I really don’t have the time or imagination to keep picking out songs. I simply group them and play them.

Re: BeoPlayer/BeoPort/BeoSound 5 & gapless music: where are we?

elephant — Tue, 24 May 2011 14:53:44 GMT

Karla:
Since the ATV2 is connected to the Avant, the Avant is serving as the gateway to the ML and all of our content is moving through our home. The interface is wonderful and the ease of use could not be better.

How do you control music selection in remote rooms ?

Re: BeoPlayer/BeoPort/BeoSound 5 & gapless music: where are we?

Karla — Tue, 24 May 2011 09:59:00 GMT

Everything seemed okay with BeoPort, but we had several issues with software and ease of use; when one day we purchased the AppleTV2 (ATV2) and everything changed.

What we didn’t know was that ATV2 has something called Airplay, which means that it will reach out wirelessly to a device and pull in the content. Since the ATV2 is connected to the Avant, the Avant is serving as the gateway to the ML and all of our content is moving through our home. The interface is wonderful and the ease of use could not be better.

The BeoPort has not been turned on for the last six months.