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Re: What's better - an MX6000 or an Avant 28?

Tod Daniel — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:01:16 GMT

Oh my gosh, I so agree with the problems with DVD1. I bought one from new at the end of 2005. i guess it has the Pioneer mechanism. It has been the biggest pile of rubbish that i have wasted £750 on. it frequently sticks whilst playing clean dvds and has an annoying habit of replaying the chapter which it has just played. in short an absolute load of trash Bang and Olufsen are a disgrace for offering such expensive rubbish - im disgusted with them!

Re: What's better - an MX6000 or an Avant 28?

DrewSavage — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 04:29:58 GMT

DrewSavage:

Well, I have to say the Avant 32 is one of the best things I've ever bought! Looks great, fantastic picture quality, and the only problem was it nearly killed three of us getting up the stairs to my friend's first floor flat where I'm staying at the moment... got to get it down again in a couple of weeks!

And things were much simpler once I'd bought a Beo4 remote off eBay.

Even the DVD1 seems to work pretty well, it hasn't had any trouble at all playing DVDs although it does seem to be a bit fussy about which CDs it'll play. Some of them just come out as low-level fuzz. But as I've got other places to play CDs so it doesn't really matter.

And I've just bought an MX1500 off eBay for £20. I know it's basically a Phillips, but it looks nice and I need a bedroom TV for the new flat...

Anyway, I do have another question. The video part of the Avant seems to be seized up. It'll take tapes in and out and will fast forward but doesn't seem to want to play. I hardly ever watch VHSs these days, and I can always connect another player up to it. But might it be fixable?

I'm guessing really that the size and weight of the entire thing makes taking it to any sort of engineer much more trouble than it's worth...

No, wait... I just tried testing it again and it worked perfectly. Joy!

Maybe lugging it up a flight of stairs jolted something back into place?

Re: What's better - an MX6000 or an Avant 28?

DrewSavage — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 04:08:04 GMT

Well, I have to say the Avant 32 is one of the best things I've ever bought! Looks great, fantastic picture quality, and the only problem was it nearly killed three of us getting up the stairs to my friend's first floor flat where I'm staying at the moment... got to get it down again in a couple of weeks!

And things were much simpler once I'd bought a Beo4 remote off eBay.

Even the DVD1 seems to work pretty well, it hasn't had any trouble at all playing DVDs although it does seem to be a bit fussy about which CDs it'll play. Some of them just come out as low-level fuzz. But as I've got other places to play CDs so it doesn't really matter.

And I've just bought an MX1500 off eBay for £20. I know it's basically a Phillips, but it looks nice and I need a bedroom TV for the new flat...

Anyway, I do have another question. The video part of the Avant seems to be seized up. It'll take tapes in and out and will fast forward but doesn't seem to want to play. I hardly ever watch VHSs these days, and I can always connect another player up to it. But might it be fixable?

I'm guessing really that the size and weight of the entire thing makes taking it to any sort of engineer much more trouble than it's worth...

Re: What's better - an MX6000 or an Avant 28?

wirralsimon — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:52:24 GMT

The MX2000 is fine if you don't pay too much. I paid 20 pounds for mine, it looks smart in a fetching shade of red and the picture is fine through a freeview box that I bought for a similarly nominal sum.

It is goes wrong I am likely to replace rather than repair, and it's not suitable as a main TV, but as an extra TV mine was a bargain!

Simon

Re: What's better - an MX6000 or an Avant 28?

tournedos — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:02:45 GMT

Peter :

MX2000 - don't touch these.

Well, why not, if you consider your "investment" expendable - certainly not worth repairing if you need any fancier spare parts or somebody doing it for you. I paid 31 euros for my externally very good white specimen, spent half an hour fixing bad solderings, and it has given great service since. The picture is a bit dim, but using an RGB signal from an STB it is much, much sharper than either my MX4002 or MX6000 (both have lousy RGB switching, which applies to all of this chassis family having two SCART inputs). You can actually read the smaller sports score graphics on the MX2000!

Re: What's better - an MX6000 or an Avant 28?

Peter — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:38:39 GMT

Of course the DVD should work with the buttons on the front. Leave this one alone - it is broken. An Avant DVD will be rather more expensive because, as you have already worked out, it is much more desirable! Lee is selling a 32" one for £895.

My experience:

Avant DVD 32" - blew a capacitor after one year - no problems since.

LX6000 - just started to have an earthing issue - will be fixed!

AV9000 - lovely set though VCR is a VX7000 and a bit flaky!

MX2000 - don't touch these.

8902 - gorgeous picture but too old - a variety of circuit problems though tube still fine.

BV10 - no clouding issues in mine!

Re: What's better - an MX6000 or an Avant 28?

Friedmett — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:33:38 GMT

DrewSavage:

Friedmett:

If the DVD1 aint connected by scart it will not work with a Beolink remote.

The remote signal comes from the Beovision to the DVD1 or whatever is connected.

Its funny when you look at ads for dvd1 and people asking if the remote is included.

The answer is no as DVD1 is controlled through the Beovision where a remote is standard.

Thank you! But shouldn't the buttons on the front of the machine at least make it do *something* when a DVD is put in, even if there's no SCART lead connected to it?

Funnily enough I have just managed to buy a red-eye off eBay for £7, so maybe I will ditch the DVD1 idea anyway...

I don't know really. I never had a DVD1 so I can't say but as its really no use of dvd without a screen and knowing the B&O products are mostly designed together you can't have one without the other.

A VX7000 video does only eject if that's anything to go by.

My CRT experience:

Beovision L2800 was rebuild in the power supply as far as I noticed of the shown repair bill. It worked great and did when I sold it with original Beolink video.

Beovision LX5500. Dead beolink 1000mkIII. Software update and RF connection changed but otherwise still running great. Beolink was fixed immediately after arrivial.

Beovision AV9000 with a dead monitor/screen/top part. B&O serviced the powersupply and other things twice. After that it is back to be working great. No video problems yet.

Re: What's better - an MX6000 or an Avant 28?

ouverture — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:21:16 GMT

yes, you got a super bargain there, what is the code / model number on the DVD controller, that will tell you what DVD players can be operated by the Beo4 remote control when the scart cable is plugged into the back of an Avant, go for a 32inch with the Beo4 remote included if you can, there are plenty of good deals around for these TV's now :-)

Re: What's better - an MX6000 or an Avant 28?

Jonathan — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:11:52 GMT

Beo4 is definitely preferable. Consider trying to get an Avant with a built in DVD player rather than a built in VCR, and if possible one with a Beo4. The RF version is preferable..

If you sign up to Beoworld as a silver or gold member you will have access to the user guides as well!

Re: What's better - an MX6000 or an Avant 28?

DrewSavage — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:43:43 GMT

ouverture:

when you say "Red Eye" , do you mean a B&O DVD Controller ??

like these recently sold ones on ebay -

item number 110465442451 or 170440129761

Yes, that's the one - mine was 220558144342... assuming I've bought the right thing then hopefully I've got a bit of a bargain there, as the other ones went for £35-£45.

But I still need to actually get an Avant - I suppose I can sell it on if not... I had seen Lee's comments on that thread but thank you for pointing them out. Seemingly then, the ones to avoid are the earlier 28" ones and the later flat screen 32"s? So I guess if I want a 32" then I'm better off going for an older curved screen model and the 28 inch one to get is the RF version?

I guess it's better to take my time and get the research right rather than buy one quickly and regret it later.

Being as Beo4 remotes seem to go for around £70 a time on eBay at the moment, I guess it's a great advantage to try and get one where the remote is included in the deal? Or would I miss out on much by trying to operate an Avant with a Beolink 1000?

I guess what I'm trying to ask is, would you say having a Beo4 is necessary to operate an Avant, or just desirable?

Re: What's better - an MX6000 or an Avant 28?

ouverture — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:23:48 GMT

and just in case you missed it, these are Lee's findings over the years

Here are my findings with CRT Televisions. I would also like the input of Jason at Iconic too here.. although he may not be as experienced (in time) dealing with the products, he invariably goes through the same rigmorole of faults and talks a lot of sense!

BeoVision 1 - Bulletproof.. never had a tube fail in all my time. Incredibly reliable.

BeoCenter 1 - Tube bulletproof, DVD Mech flaky as hell.. replaced loads.

MX Range - Tube bulletproof, never replaced one yet and never had any problems. A great TV.

AV9000 - Tube okay, seen a few blown but not loads. Usually the mechanical curtains that die or the VCR Mech goes boom.

Curved Screen Avant - 28" getting very flaky, blowing regularly. 32" seem a lot stronger, only ever seen 2 blown.

RF Screen Avant - Never had a 28" blow on me and have never heard of one going, but have seen a number of 32" versions gone.

BeoVision 3 - Never seen a 28" blown, but seen quite a few 32" versions gone. The 'Red Lines' are a dead giveaway!

As for the older LX ranges and the like, i rarely see them to be honest so cannot comment. However, i regularly get people talking to me with LX5500's, LX6000's and the like still going strong today!!

Take from that what you will - it's just an honest account of my experiences dealing with B&O day-to-day...

Re: What's better - an MX6000 or an Avant 28?

ouverture — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:51:18 GMT

when you say "Red Eye" , do you mean a B&O DVD Controller ??

like these recently sold ones on ebay -

item number 110465442451 or 170440129761

Re: What's better - an MX6000 or an Avant 28?

DrewSavage — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:37:29 GMT

(and I still need to actually buy an Avant first anyway!)

Re: What's better - an MX6000 or an Avant 28?

DrewSavage — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:36:20 GMT

Friedmett:

If the DVD1 aint connected by scart it will not work with a Beolink remote.

The remote signal comes from the Beovision to the DVD1 or whatever is connected.

Its funny when you look at ads for dvd1 and people asking if the remote is included.

The answer is no as DVD1 is controlled through the Beovision where a remote is standard.

Thank you! But shouldn't the buttons on the front of the machine at least make it do *something* when a DVD is put in, even if there's no SCART lead connected to it?

Funnily enough I have just managed to buy a red-eye off eBay for £7, so maybe I will ditch the DVD1 idea anyway...

Re: What's better - an MX6000 or an Avant 28?

ouverture — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:23:06 GMT

yes, Frede has hit the nail on the head, the Avant or the Beovision is the key for the DVD1 to work through the scart connetor, the TV remote operates the DVD player as well, so ideally a Beo4 remote

on a separate note, I would leave WELL CLEAR of any B&O DVD player, I went through 4 of them before my dealer gave me a full refund, if you do get an Avant then get a B&O DVD Controller and buy an old DVD player off ebay that is on this list

Panasonic DMR-E50 06
Panasonic DMR-E53/DMR-E55 07
Panasonic DVD-A360 01
Panasonic DMR-EH54D 16

Philips DVD950 00
Philips DVDR70/DVDR75 03
Philips DVDR80 04
Philips VR200 09
Philips HDRW720 13

Pioneer DVDR-3100 05
Pioneer DVR-530H/DVR-630H 15

Sony RDR-GX3/RDR-GX7 08
Sony RDR-HX1010 17
Sony RDR-GX210

NB I have a Panasonic DVD A360 and it plays DVD's superbly on my Avant