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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: "Enjoy importing 'B&amp;O' from Chinese Wholesalers"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/257333.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 07:20:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:257333</guid><dc:creator>bsantini</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/257333.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=257333</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;An Italien women who actually helped begin the deisgner handbag market (she was the first to feature a woven-cross weave pattern, like today&amp;#39;s Botega Venetta), was selling her original wares to exclusive retailers in the early 1950&amp;#39;s, like Neiman Marcus. She decided that she needed to dress more fashionably, perhaps couture, and decided to visit Coco Chanel for a fitting.&amp;nbsp; Before she arraived at her appointment, she became aware that some of her most prized handbags designs were alresady being copied-aka: knocked-off-, and when she arrived for her consult with Coco, she began to explain her feelings are cried about her original work being copied and sold for less.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Coco&amp;#39;s response was classic: &amp;quot;Honey, don&amp;#39;t cry when they copy you. Cry when they don&amp;#39;t.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Barry&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: "Enjoy importing 'B&amp;O' from Chinese Wholesalers"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/257280.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:43:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:257280</guid><dc:creator>striker27</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/257280.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=257280</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I knew fakes existed just not this good. &amp;nbsp; Can anyone tell me which one was heavier the fake or the real one.... &amp;nbsp;I was unable to tell from the video...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: "Enjoy importing 'B&amp;O' from Chinese Wholesalers"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256540.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 06:51:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:256540</guid><dc:creator>tournedos</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256540.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=256540</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;vikinger:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Chinese government must know what&amp;#39;s going on but can&amp;#39;t (or doesn&amp;#39;t want) to control it. Presumably B&amp;amp;O themselves are concerned but can&amp;#39;t do anything.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, B&amp;amp;O could do something about it. If A8&amp;#39;s really are so good (I dunno, I&amp;#39;ve never tried them) why not try advertising them somewhere? Like the &amp;quot;most copied headphones in the world&amp;quot;? They aren&amp;#39;t that expensive - might even attract new customers, and at the same time increase&amp;nbsp; public awareness of this copying business...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Seems almost like they just don&amp;#39;t want to sell them any more than they do now.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: "Enjoy importing 'B&amp;O' from Chinese Wholesalers"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256537.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 06:35:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:256537</guid><dc:creator>vikinger</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256537.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=256537</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t think there&amp;#39;s any doubt in anyone&amp;#39;s mind that these are fakes or &amp;#39;knockoffs&amp;#39;. What surprises me is the apparent number of manufacturers and wholesalers in China who are selling these fakes (and copies of many other &amp;#39;quality&amp;#39; HiFi products by other manufacturers.) The Chinese government must know what&amp;#39;s going on but can&amp;#39;t (or doesn&amp;#39;t want to) control it. Presumably B&amp;amp;O themselves are concerned but can&amp;#39;t do anything.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Graham&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: "Enjoy importing 'B&amp;O' from Chinese Wholesalers"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256535.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 06:22:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:256535</guid><dc:creator>andreabang</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256535.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=256535</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;completely fake, i bought a pair on youtube for 70&amp;euro; :(...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;look a this if can help&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZMKFHYAY7U&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: "Enjoy importing 'B&amp;O' from Chinese Wholesalers"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256520.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:12:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:256520</guid><dc:creator>Kokomo</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256520.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=256520</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Dixon Langeman:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We see quite a few of these knockoff A8&amp;#39;s at my shop. People usually buy them on ebay for $15-20 thinking they are real. Then are surprised when they break! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best way to spot a fake while looking online is the black &amp;quot;b&amp;amp;o&amp;quot; box. They were never sold like that from B&amp;amp;O, at least not in the States. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the UK &amp;#39;knockoff&amp;#39; is a term used for &amp;#39;stolen&amp;#39; and therefore does not necessarily mean &amp;#39;fake&amp;#39;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: "Enjoy importing 'B&amp;O' from Chinese Wholesalers"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256506.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:11:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:256506</guid><dc:creator>auclutch</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256506.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=256506</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;repost for those of you who haven&amp;#39;t seen the vid on spotting fake A8&amp;#39;s&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Please visit the site to view this media)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: "Enjoy importing 'B&amp;O' from Chinese Wholesalers"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256505.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:00:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:256505</guid><dc:creator>bayerische</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256505.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=256505</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Dixon Langeman:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We see quite a few of these knockoff A8&amp;#39;s at my shop. People usually buy them on ebay for $15-20 thinking they are real. Then are surprised when they break! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best way to spot a fake while looking online is the black &amp;quot;b&amp;amp;o&amp;quot; box. They were never sold like that from B&amp;amp;O, at least not in the States. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Exactly, not over here either. Only the &amp;quot;cardboard box&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: "Enjoy importing 'B&amp;O' from Chinese Wholesalers"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256497.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:59:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:256497</guid><dc:creator>Dixon Langeman</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256497.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=256497</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;We see quite a few of these knockoff A8&amp;#39;s at my shop. People usually buy them on ebay for $15-20 thinking they are real. Then are surprised when they break! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best way to spot a fake while looking online is the black &amp;quot;b&amp;amp;o&amp;quot; box. They were never sold like that from B&amp;amp;O, at least not in the States. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: "Enjoy importing 'B&amp;O' from Chinese Wholesalers"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256496.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:58:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:256496</guid><dc:creator>beoblok</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256496.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=256496</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The inspiration of possibility;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those poor children... &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/07.gif" alt="Unsure" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If not them, then the other, underpaid.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Was in China a few month ago. Anything, but anything is possible there!&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/07.gif" alt="Unsure" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>"Enjoy importing 'B&amp;O' from Chinese Wholesalers"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256490.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:33:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:256490</guid><dc:creator>vikinger</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/256490.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=256490</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tradetang.com/cheap/bang-and-olufsen-a8/7.html"&gt;Here&amp;#39;s&lt;/a&gt; an interesting page of Chinese suppliers offering to sell B&amp;amp;O (mainly A8 headphones) for next to nothing!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wonder whether Morethan AV realise that their ad is anchored near the bottom of the page? (At least it was at the time of this posting!)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quote from the bottom of the page:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;As the leading marketplace for cheap bang and olufsen a8 from all over
China, TradeTang provide bang and olufsen a8 supplier list for our
customers, and use ESCROW system to protect buyer&amp;#39;s benefit. Buyer can
buy bang and olufsen a8 at wholesale price from wide range of Chinese
bang and olufsen a8 wholesalers after comparing all the quotation, So
just enjoy yourself to import bang and olufsen a8 from China today!&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Graham&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>