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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Purchased Penta 2 - got Penta 1</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/255843.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:13:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:255843</guid><dc:creator>riis</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/255843.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=255843</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Peter. You&amp;#39;re probably right, so I&amp;#39;ve decided not to touch them, until I know&amp;nbsp;if I&amp;#39;m going to keep them or not.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Purchased Penta 2 - got Penta 1</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/255842.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:09:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:255842</guid><dc:creator>tournedos</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/255842.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=255842</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Before I knew about the clips, I used a blunt thin knife to pry off the grilles on mine which worked, but is obviously not the way to do it... (especially not on your own speakers &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/05.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt; ) But I still can&amp;#39;t work out how to properly push the clips open, even if I try!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So I agree with Peter, better not open them. Anyway, you can see the drivers through the fabric when you put a small flashlight right against it. This won&amp;#39;t tell you if the foam surrounds are getting sticky (first sign of them going), but you should be able to see if they are ripped or even missing bits already.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Purchased Penta 2 - got Penta 1</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/255839.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:39:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:255839</guid><dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/255839.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=255839</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Tricky! I would wait for his response first as taking the grilles off may well cause some of the plastic clips to break. Essentially each grille has a number of clips on the sides which you can feel through the fabric. These are pushed in&amp;nbsp;and then they unclip. Fiddly and I broke two on my Penta 3s the one time I did this! Decided not to bother again until I hear a change! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Purchased Penta 2 - got Penta 1</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/255826.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 07:50:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:255826</guid><dc:creator>riis</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/255826.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=255826</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m about to take a closer look at the Pentas. Have to check if I can trust the word of the dealer, who among other things (!!!) claimed that none of the speakers suffered from foam rot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But - pardon my ignorance - how do I remove the grills?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Purchased Penta 2 - got Penta 1</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/255822.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 07:10:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:255822</guid><dc:creator>riis</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/255822.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=255822</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Mika for your good advice. The dealer hasn&amp;#39;t replied yet, he won&amp;#39;t be in his shop before Monday, so let&amp;#39;s see what happens.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m glad to know that I&amp;#39;m not limited to the speakerlink connections in case I keep the Penta 1&amp;#39;s. Nice to know that you have a solution on the speakerlink/powerlink problem Steve.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Purchased Penta 2 - got Penta 1</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/255720.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:22:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:255720</guid><dc:creator>Steve at Sounds Heavenly</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/255720.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=255720</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi riis,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry to hear your bad news &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/06.gif" alt="Sad" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you decide to keep the Penta 1&amp;#39;s, please don&amp;#39;t worry in terms of connections, I can sort out some Powerlink to Speakerlink convertors if you want to use them with a newer audio system or TV with&amp;nbsp;Powerlink sockets&amp;nbsp;- that gives you all the same connection options as the mk.2 and mk.3 versions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kind regards,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Steve.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Purchased Penta 2 - got Penta 1</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/255706.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:40:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:255706</guid><dc:creator>tournedos</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/255706.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=255706</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Bummer, I hate it when something like that happens &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/06.gif" alt="Sad" /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While waiting for the dealer to reply, you have good time to calmly think it over:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Would you be happy with Mk.1&amp;#39;s?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;If you still have that BC9000, these would be easier to connect, but the lack of Powerlink may annoy you later if you upgrade the rest of the system&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The displays aren&amp;#39;t quite as nice&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The sound probably is just as good&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mk1&amp;#39;s are older and will probably need service sooner&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;If you return them, what are your chances of finding a good pair of Mk.2&amp;#39;s at the right price elsewhere? (probably good, being in Denmark)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I haven&amp;#39;t really followed the prices, but off the hat I&amp;#39;d want at least 20% discount for the wrong model, and some more for the disappointment - definitely not your fault if you checked it twice.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Purchased Penta 2 - got Penta 1</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/255704.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:25:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:255704</guid><dc:creator>riis</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/255704.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=255704</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Yesterday I received my &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; Penta 2, or should I say I thought so, because when I connected the speakers I noticed that they didn&amp;#39;t have powerlink. I checked the type number, which was 6601, so there is no doubt they&amp;#39;re Penta 1.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve purchased the speakers from a shop specializing in used B&amp;amp;O. When I first noticed the speakers on their website&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/em&gt;I contacted the dealer in order to find out whether they were MK1, MK2 or MK3, and he told me in an email that they were MK2. Later on when I had deceided to buy the Pentas he confirmed in an email that they were MK2.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So now I feel like having paid for a car from 2005 with a 1800 cc engine and got a car from 2002 with a 1600 cc engine. &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/12.gif" alt="Angry" /&gt;What do you think I should do?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1.&amp;nbsp;Say that I want my money back.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. Say that the shop has to provide me with some Penta 2 instead .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3. Say I want&amp;nbsp;some of my money back. In this case how much is the difference in value&amp;nbsp;between the two models?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The speakers seems to be in a very good condition, so&amp;nbsp;maybe I should keep them, .........or should I?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have contacted the dealer but haven&amp;#39;t heard from him yet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>