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Re: 2 little MCL problems

Tony — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:36:28 GMT

Anyone that knows what might be the problem?:

I have had a xtra speakers kit to my 4500-system for a couple of month without any problem - until a few days ago.

After 10 to 12 hours the tranciever is dark and doesnt respond to button press or remote. When I disconnect/reconnect the power cords to the Beomaster 4500 all works fine again.

Anyone with an idea?

I have a junction box for lengthen the MCL-cable at the attic, is that a problem no when the temperature drops below 0 (Celsius)? Is there someting else that can disturb the communication between relay box and the 4500? Is there any communication when the systems are i stand by? It is in stand by mode the problem has come so far. Maybe it is some component that ususally fails inte the relay box/tranciever which is easy to replace? Maybe someting in the BS4500?
What do I now...? ;-)

Re: 2 little MCL problems

stereomann — Mon, 28 May 2007 09:42:24 GMT

Dear all,

first aof all, THANKS for your kind help !!!

I have contacted B&O's customer service and to close this thread I want let you to know the "official" answer:

(in german)

"Ich habe nun wieder mit einem Techniker gesprochen, und wir müssen sagen, dass Sie eine Scartverbindung verwenden um zu Linkräumen zu verteilen, d.h. Sie können dies nicht von der S-VHS Buchse tun.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Bang & Olufsen a/s"

Which means that it isn't possible to distribute the s-vhs signal through the beolink system.

Only the devices plugged to the scart sockets can be used in linked rooms.

Viewed from the technical side the answer is a bit sad for me but the B&O service center really cared for my inquiry in a very polite way.

I'm proud to own B&O stuff

kind regards

alex

Re: 2 little MCL problems

stereomann — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:14:13 GMT

Dear Ignace,
thanks for your kind help. I've tried the programming you've described but with no luck.
It is not possible to switch to the S-VHS socket of the MX7000 (located in the main room) from the LX2502 in the linked room.
Sadly there is even no possibility to remote control the MX7000's main (setup) menu so that I could switch to the S-VHS socket manually.
The reason why I want to do this is to watch the films from the computer (connected to the MX7000 S-VHS socket) in my linked room.
But, as I said, sadly this will not work.
regards
Alex

Re: 2 little MCL problems

Ignace — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:48:18 GMT

stereomann:
Dear all,
first of all: congratulations to the "new" forum ! Great !!

I bought a x-tra speakers kit (2047) with IR-transceiver for my BC9300, connected it to the mcl plugs and everything works fine. Then I did connect a x-tra TV kit to it to have access to the Audio/Video sources in my bedroom. Everything works fine too, BUT: When I switch on the lx2502 in my bedroom to listen to an Audio source, the x-tra passive speakers kit in the other room (children's room) is switched on too. No chance to mute it. Are there any option programmings I have forgotten or is it the wrong way to connect a x-tra TV kit after the x-tra speakers kit ?
Second (small) problem I have: Is it possible to watch a source, connected to the s-vhs socket ont the mainroom TV, in a linked room ?
Which buttons on a BL1000 I do have to press ?

MX7000+VX5000+BC93000 in the main room
x-tra Passive Speakers kit (with transceiver) in the first linked room
LX2502+-tra TV kit (without transceiver) in the second linked room

Would be very kind if anyone could help me
regards
Alex
PS: Is there no chance to become a connaisseurs club member any longer ? I remember that there all the MCL user guides were listed.

Hi,

It might have something to do with Option settings.

below is the B&O recommended setup :

************************* VIDEO SYSTEM SETUP **************************

Beovision MX 7000 IT
Beocord VX 5000 (VR 1)

Connection Video

Connect the VR 1 to the AV 1 socket of the TV-set using a fully
specified 21/21-pin A/V cable (RGB cable).

Connect the aerial to the aerial input of the VR 1.
Connect the aerial output of the VR 1 to the aerial input of the
TV-set using a coaxial cable.

Selecting option on the TV-set

Option: OPTION 1 (Factory setting), with Beo4

                Press:                          | Display:
               --------------------------------------------
                STANDBY + LIST at the same time | OPTION?
                GO                              | V.OPT
                1                               | Observe confirmation
                                                | from BeoVision

Note!

When using the remote control mute function, sound is
restored by turning the volume up or down.

In AUX mode, teletext subtitles are recorded automatically on the
Beocord VX (VR 1) if memory page 4 of the channel's teletext
system has been programmed for subtitles in advance.
However, this does
not
apply to BeoVisions with type number 87xx.

The Beocord VX 5000 must be equipped with software (S/W) 2.2 or higher
part No. 8341653.

It is not possible to connect an A/V decoder to the VTR decoder socket.

It is not possible to use the digital functions (PIP etc.)
in Beocord VX 5000.

Access to the VTR Timer record menu can be obtained via:
V.TAPE / MENU / V.Tape menu / Timer record
and
not
by selecting Timer record which is shown
the first time you press MENU.

The TV-set cannot activate the VPS function in V.TAPE, if V.TAPE
has been TIMER-programmed by means of VPT.

If the VTR modulator frequency interferes with other signals in the
UHF range, adjust the modulator frequency by means of the screw
on the rear panel of the VTR.
The recommended distance between channels in the UHF range is
16 MHz.

************************* AUDIO SYSTEM SETUP **************************

BeoCenter 9300
Beovox passive

Connection Audio

Connect the Beovox to the SPEAKERS 1 socket on the audio
master using a loudspeaker cable.

Connect the aerial to the aerial input of the audio master.

When using the remote control mute function, sound is
restored by turning the volume up or down.

Selecting option on the audio master

Option: OPTION 1

Press: STAND-BY   SOUND 1 STORE

Option: OPTION 1 (Factory setting), with Beo4

                Press:                          | Display:
               --------------------------------------------
                STANDBY + LIST at the same time | OPTION?
                GO                              | V.OPT
                LIST                            | A.OPT
                1                               | Observe confirmation
                                                | from AudioMaster

********************* AUDIO/VIDEO/LINK SYSTEM SETUP *******************

Connection

Connect the AUX/TV socket of the audio master to the AUDIO
AUX LINK socket of the TV-set using a 7/7-pin DIN cable.

Note!

All Timer PLAY programming must be made on the radio.
Set Timer ON/OFF to ON on the products to be switched on via the
Timer programming.

It is not possible to use the timer function for programming
VIDEO PLAY or VIDEO STAND-BY.

If the AV TV is pressed in the central room while video or satellite
is being watched/listened to in a Link room, the source in the Link
room will change to a TV-programme.

********************* REMOTE CONTROL FOR MAIN ROOM ********************

The recommended remote control is Beo4

The following remote controls may also be used:
Beolink 1000

However, there may be functional limitations if the alternative
remote control is used

Setup for Beo4 remote control:

Beo4's "LIST" must contain the following items in order to be able
to operate the Main Room products.

LARGE REVEAL INDEX UDDATE MIX SUBCODE STORE
COUNTER TRACKNG RETURN
MONO    (changed to SOUND with S/W 4.0 or higher in Beo4)
TURN RETURN
(RESET)
A.SETUP (only with S/W 2.0 or higher in Beo4)
AV      (only with S/W 4.0 or higher in Beo4)

See Beo4's operation manual page 10/12 on REMOVE and ADD functions
from/to the List

Note!

Beo4 must be equipped with software (S/W) 2.0 or higher to operate:
Setup and tuning functions on the Videomaster.
The software version can be read on the Beo4 display by
pressing (STANDBY LIST) and then (MENU GO) at the same time.
Order No. 8001827

*************************** LINK SYSTEM SETUP *************************

Master Control Link
X-tra speakers
Beovox passive
Transceiver

Connection

Connect the MCL cable to the SPEAKERS 2 sockets on the audio
master in the central room.
If an MCL cable is already connected, connect the new cable in
parallel.

Connect the MCL cable to the 7-pin terminal strip of the relay box
in the local room.
Connect the transceiver cable to the 5-pin terminal strip of the
relay box.

Connect the Beovox to the relay box using a loudspeaker cable.

Maximum speaker load

Set the SPEAKER PROTECTION knop in the relay box to match the maximum
power handling of the loudspeakers

Selecting option on the MCL

Option 2.6, with Beolink 1000
Press: STAND-BY LINK 2 STORE
                  LINK 6 STORE

Note!

It is not possible to switch on the source last listened to by
pressing MUTE on a remote control.

Audio recording in the central room can be started from the local
room by pressing LINK RECORD RECORD.
However, it is recommended always to start a recording in the central
room.

********************* REMOTE CONTROL FOR LINK ROOM ********************

The recommended remote control is Beo4

Setup for Beo4 remote controle:

Beo4's "LIST" must contain the following items to be able
to operate the products from the Link Room.

MONO (changed to SOUND with S/W 4.0 or higher in Beo4)
TURN RETURN
(RESET)
A.SETUP (only with S/W 2.0 or higher in Beo4)
AV      (only with S/W 4.0 or higher in Beo4)

See Beo4's operation manual page 10/12 on REMOVE and ADD functions
from/to the List

*************************** LINK SYSTEM SETUP *************************

Master Control Link
X-tra TV
Beovision LX 2502

Connection

Connect the MCL cable to the SPEAKERS 2 sockets on the audio
master in the central room.
If an MCL cable is already connected, connect the new cable in
parallel.

The aerial signal will be distributed to the TV-set in the link room
from the aerial system in the central room by means of an aerial
splitter.
To enable distribution of VTR sound and picture insert the aerial
splitter between the TV-set and the VTR.

Connect the AUX 1 socket of the TV-set to the AUX socket of the
MCL 2AV using a 7/7-pin DIN cable.

Setting of option on the LINK TV-set

Press: TV SHIFT TEXT   > OPTION 2
                          STORE STORE >>
                          > MASTER
                          STORE STORE

Note!

In order to distribute HF to the link room the VTR modulator frequency
must be stored on a program no. in the link room TV
This is made in the following way:
Press: LINK V.TAPE
Press: TV             Tune the TV in to the frequency
Press: SHIFT 2        Activate A/V synch.
                        Store P.no.

The Beovision must be equipped with software (S/W) 2.1 or higher,
part nos. 8341094 and 8341095, to communicate with the MCL 2AV.

It is not possible to switch on the source last listened to by
pressing MUTE on a remote control.

The MCL 2AV must be set to option 6 to give access to the Beocord VX
menus in the local room.

It is not possible to operate the digital functions of the Beocord VX
5000 video recorder from local room.

Stereo sound in the local room from the VTR in the central room can
obtained in two ways:
- Press: V.TAPE AV V.TAPE.
V.TAPE switches on the VTR in the central room,
and reproduces picture and mono sound in the local room.
AV V.TAPE reproduces a stereo sound in the local room.
- Select option 5 instead of option 6 (hardware option) by mounting
the jumper J1 in the MCL 2AV's microprocessor shield.
Stereo sound is automatically obtained when the VTR is switched on
(press V.TAPE).
The stereo sound is distributed by the audiomaster in the central
room. This means that the audiomaster cannot be used for other
purposes, e.g. playing radio in the central room or in another local
room while the stereo sound is being distributed.

If the TIMER function is required in the local room, the transceiver
cannot be dispensed with.

If a tape recorder or a CD-player is connected to the MCL 2AV as a
local source, a transceiver is required to enable operation of the
tape recorder or the CD-Player in the central room.

********************* REMOTE CONTROL FOR LINK ROOM ********************

The recommended remote control is Beolink 1000

Re: 2 little MCL problems

Jandyt — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:38:53 GMT

Well done, Kevin!

Your continual incessant oining has paid off. Keep it up

Andy T.

Re: 2 little MCL problems

stereomann — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:31:26 GMT

Dear Kevin,
thanks for the hint to become a silver or gold member. That's what I was looking for. Now I upgraded my membership :-) and found all the instruction and user's manuals.

The problem with the malfunction of the x-tra Speakers kit is solved. One transceiver connector had a bad soldering. Resoldered... and LUCK !!

Regards

Alex

Re: 2 little MCL problems

Kevin — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:39:34 GMT

Hi Alex,

can't help with your particular issue but if upgrade to Gold membership you get access to all the manuals and get a chance to win in the prize draw.

2 little MCL problems

stereomann — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:37:02 GMT

Dear all,
first of all: congratulations to the "new" forum ! Great !!

I bought a x-tra speakers kit (2047) with IR-transceiver for my BC9300, connected it to the mcl plugs and everything works fine. Then I did connect a x-tra TV kit to it to have access to the Audio/Video sources in my bedroom. Everything works fine too, BUT: When I switch on the lx2502 in my bedroom to listen to an Audio source, the x-tra passive speakers kit in the other room (children's room) is switched on too. No chance to mute it. Are there any option programmings I have forgotten or is it the wrong way to connect a x-tra TV kit after the x-tra speakers kit ?
Second (small) problem I have: Is it possible to watch a source, connected to the s-vhs socket ont the mainroom TV, in a linked room ?
Which buttons on a BL1000 I do have to press ?

MX7000+VX5000+BC93000 in the main room
x-tra Passive Speakers kit (with transceiver) in the first linked room
LX2502+-tra TV kit (without transceiver) in the second linked room

Would be very kind if anyone could help me
regards
Alex
PS: Is there no chance to become a connaisseurs club member any longer ? I remember that there all the MCL user guides were listed.