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If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Serenata or the Iphone 3gs?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/236445.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:24:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:236445</guid><dc:creator>Peter2</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/236445.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=236445</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Puncher:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does anyone have an issue with continually dropping their piephone? - I&amp;#39;ve lost count of how many times I&amp;#39;ve dropped mine while getting it out of my pocket etc.! Sometimes it&amp;#39;s like handling a bar of soap in the bath!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sleek and slippery metal&amp;amp;glass design isn&amp;#39;t necessarily a good thing when&amp;nbsp;something is meant to be hand held.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Access to works email (MS Outlook) and web browser swung it for me.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All the time!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Top pocket, pick something up, and out it slips - never seem to learn!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serenata or the Iphone 3gs?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/236375.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:43:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:236375</guid><dc:creator>bayerische</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/236375.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=236375</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve never dropped mine. But knowing it is slippery, I tend to pull it out of my pocket carefully.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serenata or the Iphone 3gs?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/236371.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:34:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:236371</guid><dc:creator>Puncher</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/236371.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=236371</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Does anyone have an issue with continually dropping their piephone? - I&amp;#39;ve lost count of how many times I&amp;#39;ve dropped mine while getting it out of my pocket etc.! Sometimes it&amp;#39;s like handling a bar of soap in the bath!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sleek and slippery metal&amp;amp;glass design isn&amp;#39;t necessarily a good thing when&amp;nbsp;something is meant to be hand held.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Access to works email (MS Outlook) and web browser swung it for me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serenata or the Iphone 3gs?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/236083.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:08:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:236083</guid><dc:creator>linder</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/236083.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=236083</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Fatandre:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whoch one would you go with. Serenata or the Iphone 3gs? I am trying to choose.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Buy both phones! &amp;nbsp;The Serenata can be that special phone that you use for music and occasionally as a telephone. &amp;nbsp;However the iPhone is truly a 21st century device in almost every way. &amp;nbsp;I am on my 3rd iPhone. &amp;nbsp;My newer iPhone was recently stolen but I was able to remotely erase and disable the phone. &amp;nbsp;Unfortunately I had to pay full price for a new iPhone.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I discontinued my regular home phone not just to save money but because the iPhone is more useful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serenata or the Iphone 3gs?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/236074.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:00:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:236074</guid><dc:creator>ridax</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/236074.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=236074</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I have never tried the Serenata, but the iPhone 3g is the first smart phone I have used. &amp;nbsp;I originally just bought it for business reasons (to test equipment with it) and I didn&amp;#39;t see smart phones as that useful, but to my surprise I found the iPhone very easy and useful for several purposes. &amp;nbsp;I use email and the calendar a lot and I have started to use it for car navigation and light sea navigation (just for fun though, serious sea navigation needs to be done with dedicated instruments). &amp;nbsp;I don&amp;#39;t use the music or movie features at all, but my kids take the phone all the time when in the car to watch movies or play games.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So I and the entire family has got totally addicted to the iPhone. &amp;nbsp;Bad points are low battery capacity, bad GPS facilities and no syncing with Thunderbird (afaik).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serenata or the Iphone 3gs?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/236071.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:32:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:236071</guid><dc:creator>Peter2</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/236071.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=236071</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The iPhone is clearly a great gadget though I only use mine for email and apps, as the sound quality from calls is poor.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Seranata is certainly different and in many ways quite likeable (if a bit cumbersome), and the sound quality is very good; but I find it just not very useable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Vertu to my mind is the phone B &amp;amp; O should have made - a high quality straightforward phone with excellent call quality.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As no one phone ticks all the boxes maybe best to have a couple?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serenata or the Iphone 3gs?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/236001.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:14:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:236001</guid><dc:creator>Sal</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/236001.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=236001</wfw:commentRss><description>Raveny nails it: so what if so many people have it? The iPhone does what it claims to do, and does it elegantly. Do you want functionality, especially for a device which you&amp;#39;re going to be handline and being tactile with a lot more than your audio system? If so, then the iPhone (or maybe the DROID, as it&amp;#39;s been getting relatively positive reviews) is for you.&lt;/p&gt;
The age of unitasker phones is over.&lt;/p&gt;
Sal&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serenata or the Iphone 3gs?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/236000.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:10:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:236000</guid><dc:creator>bayerische</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/236000.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=236000</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;raveny:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;iPhone 3GS of course...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39; like the argument: so many people have it. Before the iPhone I thought about Vertu, I didn&amp;#39;t care about features. But the iPhone looks and feels great, the functionality is fantastic! If Apple would sell as many unit as Serenata the iPhone would be 100 times more expensive than it. It&amp;#39;s one of the few products which are not expensive but really great. So I don&amp;#39;t care about having a ubiquitous device...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s amazing to how many segments the iPhone is appealing: kids, tech savvy, business, women, rich...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wouldn&amp;#39;t you buy the BL5 if they were as expensive as Sony speakers but still as good as it is now?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I totally agree, I use the iPhones features daily, a Serenata or Serene would be a huge disappointment. But if all you do is call and text, then any phone is good enough I guess, and one can choose the design one likes. (Like Serenata)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However iPhone and Beo phones are in such different segments, one is a luxury phone, the other an all round smart phone.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serenata or the Iphone 3gs?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/235998.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:53:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:235998</guid><dc:creator>raveny</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/235998.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=235998</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;iPhone 3GS of course...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39; like the argument: so many people have it. Before the iPhone I thought about Vertu, I didn&amp;#39;t care about features. But the iPhone looks and feels great, the functionality is fantastic! If Apple would sell as many unit as Serenata the iPhone would be 100 times more expensive than it. It&amp;#39;s one of the few products which are not expensive but really great. So I don&amp;#39;t care about having a ubiquitous device...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s amazing to how many segments the iPhone is appealing: kids, tech savvy, business, women, rich...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wouldn&amp;#39;t you buy the BL5 if they were as cheap/expensive as Sony speakers but still as good as it is now?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serenata or the Iphone 3gs?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/235992.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:39:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:235992</guid><dc:creator>Fatandre</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/235992.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=235992</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I can get a New from the dealer Serentata with the Earset2 for 720$ Think thats goo?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serenata or the Iphone 3gs?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/235988.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:30:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:235988</guid><dc:creator>Stephan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/235988.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=235988</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Its such a shame that B&amp;amp;O screwed up so badly with their mobile phones.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Having an 2G iPhone since the first month of release I cannot stand the hype anymore to be honest.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It does have cool applications, it works like promised in many ways, overall a groundbreaking product BUT everyone has it...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m really thinking about buying a Serenata just to &amp;quot;think different&amp;quot; and escape all the hype.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They sell new &amp;quot;very cheap&amp;quot; on ebay, so why not give it a try....&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;rgds&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Stephan&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serenata or the Iphone 3gs?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/235844.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:01:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:235844</guid><dc:creator>9 LEE</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/235844.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=235844</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;If you want a phone that can do anything and everything incredibly well - it&amp;#39;s the iPhone. What an utterly amazing bit of kit - i really cannot tell you how impressed i am with it.&amp;nbsp; I always wanted a Vertu &amp;#39;just because&amp;#39; - but now i don&amp;#39;t even look at other phones - why should i?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you want to be different, then the Serenata is the one to have.&amp;nbsp; Certainly the one that everyone would look at if you put it on the table in pub.. but then again they&amp;#39;d have to put their iPhones down first.. LOL&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lee&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serenata or the Iphone 3gs?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/235824.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:04:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:235824</guid><dc:creator>Chrisreunion</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/235824.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=235824</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Everybody wants an Iphone.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Depends if you want to be everybody..&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/04.gif" alt="Stick out tongue" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I own a Serenata, recently bought a Porsche Design phone, which costs the same price, and although texting is a real pleasure, the sound performance on all applications (phoning, music player through headphones or built-in speakers) is wayyyyyyyy behind!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course if you want your phone to do almost everything and maybe someday act as a mini microwave oven, you should go for the Iphone. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can always get an Earset 3 and improve its sound performance&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/35.gif" alt="Hmm" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serenata or the Iphone 3gs?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/235823.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:50:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:235823</guid><dc:creator>bayerische</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/235823.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=235823</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;iPhone, definitely. Some things are just better left up to the professionals. &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/21.gif" alt="Yes -  thumbs up" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serenata or the Iphone 3gs?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/235793.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:15:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:235793</guid><dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/235793.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=235793</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I think you will be happier if you get the iphone, from a long term point of view. Better texting, dialing, browsing, applications, emailing, almost everything but sound reproduction. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m sure there are at least a handful of people that use both.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>