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Re: Beocenter Help

cooldude — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:08:52 GMT

rhansen:

So you still think the Beosystem is the way to go?

yes

Re: Beocenter Help

rhansen — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:59:37 GMT

So you still think the Beosystem is the way to go?

Re: Beocenter Help

cooldude — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:09:39 GMT

The white boxes hold the MCL circuitry that will switch on/off an individual (or several as they can be grouped) set of speakers and the last pictures shows the IR receiver that is connected to those boxes.

These boxes need to be connected with the 3 pin plugs.

The volume control is just what it is ...switches on/off the speakers (hence the click sound) and dims the volume (just like a light dimmer).
Most likely connected to the 2 pin speaker plugs. It's kind of a limited manual control instead of the IR receiver/white box combo that also works with remote control.

As you have 4 plugs (speaker L and R and MCL L and R) obviously they have several sets of speakers connected to both the speaker and MCL plugs.

Re: Beocenter Help

tournedos — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:58:58 GMT

The first find seems an MCL2something all right. It doesn't contain an amplifier, just some circuitry to send/receive remote commands from the transceiver (last pic) connected to it and pass them on to the main system, and a relay to switch on/off the local speakers connected to it. You must have two more of them somewhere as the IR transceivers alone have no use at all.

Can't make much of the volume control pic, but it definitely still is a custom job by somebody. Most probably just a passive attenuator so you can individually turn down the volume of those local speakers, otherwise they will all run at the same volume since the main system has just one shared output for all of them. It might also switch between some speakers, who knows.

But in any case, to me it seems safe for you to start looking for something to connect there

Re: Beocenter Help

rhansen — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:46:38 GMT

Ok, I turned my house upside down trying to finally figure this system out, and just when I was about to lose hope, I found what I was searching for. It had been hiding from me in the furnace room.

First two pictures are of transciever(amplifier?) that I found hiding. I did not find the other two, but I am assuming they are hidden in the wall somewhere. The 3rd pic is the volume dial. 4th pic is rectangular (transciever?) panel for beolink. There are 3 of those in the house, which leads me to believe that there are 3 transciever boxes for a total of 16 speakers. Took the speakers out of the wall, they are made by sonance. Am I moving in the right direction? I hope these extra pictures are a little help!

Thanks again for all of your insight!

Re: Beocenter Help

Peter — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:40:25 GMT

I would get the 6500 or preferably the 7000. You seem to have a lot of speakers! The only thing is the volume controls - I wonder if you have MCL2Ps in the system.

Re: Beocenter Help

cooldude — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:34:45 GMT

Beosystem's hart is a beomaster.

I love the beocenter 9500/9300 for it's design, but beware buying second hand as ofter the cd player is need of some work, the tape deck will need new belts and the glass panels often come loose. Not to speak of the 2 doors coming off tracks during shipping.

The beosystem 5500,6500 or the later 7000 all have the beomaster as main amplifier. Build like a tank (weighs as much too....) they go for little money 2nd hand and to me are the best value for money..... though a more 'conventional' kind of system and less design.

Re: Beocenter Help

rhansen — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:52:30 GMT

I think I am finally coming to understand the system thanks to all of your helpful info. So, knowing that I have 14 speakers in my house, with 3 transcievers. I understand that a beocenter 9500 or a beosystem 7000 will work. Which do you recommend? Thanks again

Re: Beocenter Help

cooldude — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:01:30 GMT

Beocenter 9500 is rated at 2x85 watts at 8ohms
Beomaster 7000 is rated at 2x110 watts at 8 ohms. ( Is what I remember but you can look it up on this site)
My beomaster can perfectly handle 4 pairs of speakers without breaking a sweat ....(I don't have room for more speakers..) so I think 6 sets would be feasible.

Like I wrote before, it depends on the power used by the build-in speakers. For example : 2 pairs of 60 watt speakers vs 1 pair of 120 watt speakers ...
One of the other reasons I go for the beomasters , beside being more powerfull, is that it does not run as hot as a BC9500 in a MCL system.

Also maintenance (and possible repair) costs are a factor in this setup imo.

Re: Beocenter Help

burantek — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:59:14 GMT

rhansen:

I am located in northeast Nebraska. And I am sorry but I dont recall if the box looked similar to the picture you sent me. I only really remember what was behind the volume dial.

Argh, too far!

I understand. Spend some time this weekend and find out just what you do have. Maybe snap a few photos and we can all piece this together for you.

Re: Beocenter Help

rhansen — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:54:52 GMT

I am located in northeast Nebraska. And I am sorry but I dont recall if the box looked similar to the picture you sent me. I only really remember what was behind the volume dial.

Re: Beocenter Help

burantek — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:52:55 GMT

rhansen, where are you located?

Re: Beocenter Help

rhansen — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:45:13 GMT

Yes, I cant imagine we will have all speakers blasting at once. After thinking about it I believe there are 14 speakers total. Do you think a beocenter 9500 would easily handle most of these speakers playing at medium volume or 5-6 playing loudly?

Re: Beocenter Help

cooldude — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:38:42 GMT

I can full suggest the systems I mentionned.

The amount of speakers is irrelevant ... the total wattage pulled by them is.

Also in a system like that, it's unusual to switch on all the speakers full blast all the time.

Re: Beocenter Help

rhansen — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:35:39 GMT

And yes, at this point I am pretty set on getting a B&O system. It seems to be much easier.