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Re: BEOVISION 10

Chrisreunion — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:06:15 GMT

On the positive note, the user guide confirms the TV is fitted with both USB and Ethernet connections, let's hope in the near future we can use the Ethernet input for Masterlink and the USB input to plug in any hard-drive/USB storage device and play our video files with a simple on-screen interface, instead of using the clumsy, limited & expensive (my personal opinion!) BeoMaster 5 solution.

Re: BEOVISION 10

muck22 — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:09:05 GMT

it seems that DVB-T2 in germany will not arrive before 2011 in GB in 2010

see this page: DVB-T2

Re: BEOVISION 10

muck22 — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:04:13 GMT

canceld

Re: BEOVISION 10

Peter — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:24:38 GMT

An interesting combination! Analogue is usually used for the tweeter and ICE for the bass! Seems a bit odd.

Re: BEOVISION 10

Chrisreunion — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:18:31 GMT

Having read the complete user guide, I can't help thinking that David Lewis never uses headphones: have you seen where it is located? On the socket panel at the back bottom of the TV set!! Same as on BeoSound 1..

The video with the acoustic engineer tells us that an analog 30W amp is used for the 4" "subwoofer", and that 5 W ICE amps are used for the midrange-tweeter units.

Re: BEOVISION 10

Ehlerz — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:23:59 GMT

PhilLondon:

The DVB HD tuner of that TV is DVB-T and DVB-C...

Regardless of what it is, it does not work!!

Re: BEOVISION 10

tournedos — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:02:11 GMT

They are in the same boat with every other manufacturer. This issue has been seen so many times with every tv/radio digitalization step, who's gonna market receivers if there are no transmissions, and vice versa...

I'm confident they can bring the receiver module out. Just a heads up to the consumer - most likely you will not be able to receive terrestrial HD broadcasts with any current receiver without hardware updates. B&O is pretty clever keeping the receiver modular! With most other manufacturers, it'll be get a new telly or a new STB...

Re: BEOVISION 10

Peter — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:43:48 GMT

The B&O line on this is that DVB-T2 chip sets are not yet available but once they are, B&O will be making them available.

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tournedos — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:38:49 GMT

bayerische:

Mika, I use "C", Cable from Welho. However in the future satellite or air transmissions are a likely source for me...

When it comes to satellite, you're off to get a separate STB anyway... in cable, I suppose this DVB-HD module should work just fine. I just read the user manual Peter has put on site and it seems to have a built-in CONAX module, so that will be fine for both T and C pay-tv in Finland as well.

What still remains open is the DVB-T2 capability. I don't think it is there, as it is not mentioned anywhere, and that would put B&O at the forefront of technology since nobody else has it either From current knowledge, two terrestrial HD licences have been admitted in Finland (both to DNA) and the requirements specifically mandate that DVB-T2 should be used. Don't expect any regular transmissions in at least a year, though.

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bayerische — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:20:58 GMT

Mika, I use "C", Cable from Welho. However in the future satellite or air transmissions are a likely source for me...

Re: BEOVISION 10

Peter — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:38:34 GMT

I do have the manual for the DVB-HD module at home - I will post it tonight.

Re: BEOVISION 10

tournedos — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:37:19 GMT

Raeuber:

Here in Germany the DVB-C/T-Module is an option. So I believe it will work fine, otherwise this option wouldn´t make any sense.

Yes of course, I forgot to stress that this -T2 issue affects only future HD broadcasts over the air. The existing T/C tuner should be just fine for current SD transmissions, as well as existing HD services on cable.

There will be a more bandwidth-effective HD version even for cable, DVB-C2 - but it's not even fully specified yet, let alone that you could have receivers supporting it.

Re: BEOVISION 10

Raeuber — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:25:12 GMT

Hello!

Here in Germany the DVB-C/T-Module is an option. So I believe it will work fine, otherwise this option wouldn´t make any sense.

Tomorrow I will contact my dealer to order this great new TV for replacing my AVANT, but only if DVB-C is working as I expect!

I want to insert the smart-card from my cable-providor (Unitymedia) in an Alphacrypt-Module (Mascom) and insert this module into the slot of the BV 10. I did the same a fiew month ago with the new Technisat-TV from my mother-in-law and it works fine! I don´t want to buy an additional set-top-box, this would be a knock-out-criterion for the BV 10!

I have heard this procedure does not work with the BV 8-40, my dealer told me there will be an update to come soon. I can´t believe it will be the same with the brand new BV 10.

Has anybody additional information in this matter?

Best regards

Räuber

Re: BEOVISION 10

tournedos — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:56:41 GMT

bayerische:

OK, so that is good, hopefully it would have a T/C DVB module over here in Finland, without any extra cost... AR coating is a must.

Forget about terrestrial HD, though. Everybody and his brother is now selling these "HD capable" DVB-T TVs in Finland, but nobody tells you that once the real broadcasts begin, they will use DVB-T2 modulation due to bandwidth constraints. The TVs may have the MPEG-4 decoder required to decode the broadcasts, but that bitstream won't be coming through the -T tuner! I don't think there are any TVs on the market now that will eventually work without - you guessed it - a HD set top box... I believe UK and many other countries are going to -T2 as well, with some countries skipping DVB-T completely.

-C should be fine for HD though, and usable right now.

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bayerische — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:34:52 GMT

Peter :

bayerische:

OK, so have the analogue, but please treat your customers to digital TV at a cost of 6000e... Don't you agree? Why the extra cost? How much will the digital TV module be?

In the UK market, you cannot buy it without the DVB-T module. The price includes it. The extras will be the AR coating and the stand you want. You can also change the colour of the speaker cover.

OK, so that is good, hopefully it would have a T/C DVB module over here in Finland, without any extra cost... AR coating is a must.