General Forum

Re: Help needed to remplace belts on a BeoCord 5000/Aide au remplacement des courroies d'un BeoCord 5000

Rich — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:53:32 GMT

Martin:

I was quite surprised at how easy it was to replace the belts on my BC3300. I am at least the second owner on all my Beocords; it is unknown if my BC1900, BC2400, and BC4500 have ever had their belts changed.

I have never experienced any issues with the BC2400, but the BC1900 will not play tapes made by BASF, and the BC4500 is always a danger to eat a tape at any moment.

Two questions. Would it be a good idea to replace all belts on all decks "just in case"? Are the other three decks going to be as easy as the BC3300?

If the answers are "yes" to both questions above, a third: do you have belts for the BC1900, BC2400 & BC4500? (I imagine the 1900 and 2400 are the same.)

Best regards,

Rich

Re: Help needed to remplace belts on a BeoCord 5000/Aide au remplacement des courroies d'un BeoCord 5000

Dillen — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:08:47 GMT

aad319:

I will await delivery of the belts I ordered (Indeed on ebay) and use them to check the motor's moving and geting other parts working.
If this will look OK I might as well order correct belts from you instead, just to make sure. How is that?
But in the meantime.... the instructions?

Aad

Please read the second line of my previous post and answer my PM (check your inbox).

Martin

Re: Help needed to remplace belts on a BeoCord 5000/Aide au remplacement des courroies d'un BeoCord 5000

Aad Jansse — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:12:15 GMT

I will await delivery of the belts I ordered (Indeed on ebay) and use them to check the motor's moving and geting other parts working.
If this will look OK I might as well order correct belts from you instead, just to make sure. How is that?
But in the meantime.... the instructions?

Aad

Re: Help needed to remplace belts on a BeoCord 5000/Aide au remplacement des courroies d'un BeoCord 5000

Dillen — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 12:53:05 GMT

Oh yes, now I see the reason for your embarassment.
You have a PM.

What worries me more than the instructions is if the belts you bought really are suitable for your Beocord.
I have a bunch of motors lying here dead from running with too tight belts. They are mainly
from 8000 series decks but there are some 2000/3300/5000's between as well.
Twelve motors in the bucket so far and common thing was the capstan belt being far too tight, placing
an excess sideways load (pull) on the motor bearings. New motors are not exactly plentyful so it's
quite a sad case.
The motor starts making a noise, sometimes squeeky, sometimes rattling, then it blocks and, depending
on the deck type, it either blows a fuse or burns a motor coil.
The motor bearings are cintered bronze. Used correctly they will practically last forever but loaded incorrectly
their lifespan count hours rather than years.
The motor bearings are the first to go but I should think the capstan bearings don't like it either, they are
basically of the same type.
I haven't been able to narrow it down to a specific seller but the problem belts were all bought on Ebay.

Martin

Re: Help needed to remplace belts on a BeoCord 5000/Aide au remplacement des courroies d'un BeoCord 5000

Aad Jansse — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 10:08:23 GMT

I am very sorry for the confusion I created by not clearly mentioning that I already ordered belts
before I began thinking of writing a post on this subject;
that leaves my question open as to obtaining from you printed instructions
with fotos and how to compensate you for this.

Aad

Re: Help needed to remplace belts on a BeoCord 5000/Aide au remplacement des courroies d'un BeoCord 5000

Dillen — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 06:33:23 GMT

Welcome to Beoworld !

Yes, printed instructions with photos and text can be included with the new belts.
You are always welcome to contact me if you run into problems, whether or not I can
help you is a different matter.
If I can, I will.

Martin

Re: Help needed to remplace belts on a BeoCord 5000/Aide au remplacement des courroies d'un BeoCord 5000

Aad Jansse — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 05:57:43 GMT

My first post on this forum; I recently found a BC5000 (€ 16) with faulty drawer (and maybe more failures); a lttle experience with a few other B&O beltdriven gear made me suspect that there would be the inevitable black sludge in the tape/motor section and, off course, BINGO! (after downloading the appropriate SM and care fully taking the BC in parts)
I found the above post and dare to reply (don't know if this is still "in the air").
I wonder I if you may be able to help me out with reference to the following quote from your post:
"I can include belt mounting instructions with photos and text (english)." Would appreciate very much.
If the miracle would occur that after mounting he newly ordered belts the 5000 would mechanically work again , may I contact you again when
there turns out to be more probles.

Thanks

Aad

Re: Help needed to remplace belts on a BeoCord 5000/Aide au remplacement des courroies d'un BeoCord 5000

bruno_destickere — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 08:09:53 GMT

Hello Martin,

Thanks for your quick reply!

Indeed, it's the same belt for 5500-6500-7000.

I did try B&O Belgium for spares but they stopped producing ages ago and have no stocks... .

It would be grateful if you can help me with a similar belt; I am sure you know the right people/places... . :-)

See what you can do for me. (in fact, I need 2 of it)

Many Thanks and have a nice weekend!

Bruno

Re: Help needed to remplace belts on a BeoCord 5000/Aide au remplacement des courroies d'un BeoCord 5000

tournedos — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:14:43 GMT

Or, clean & relubricate the tray mechanism and you might find that the old belt still performs just fine

The belt will be a little annoying to replace anyway since you can't simply take it off without disconnecting the wire drive, I think...

Re: Help needed to remplace belts on a BeoCord 5000/Aide au remplacement des courroies d'un BeoCord 5000

Dillen — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 11:14:47 GMT

Yes, I can supply a new CD tray motor belt for the Beogram CD5500, CD6500 and CD7000
Instructions can be included. It's replaced in 4 minutes.

Martin

Re: Help needed to remplace belts on a BeoCord 5000/Aide au remplacement des courroies d'un BeoCord 5000

bruno_destickere — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 08:46:48 GMT

Hello Martin,

Here I'm back...!

I now looking for a drawing belt for my beogram cd5500.

Could you also help me with this??

Is this the same belt for the CD7000, because my father also have problems with open/close the drawer... ?

Please, let me know what you can do for me.

Regards, Bruno

Re: Help needed to remplace belts on a BeoCord 5000/Aide au remplacement des courroies d'un BeoCord 5000

bruno_destickere — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:46:18 GMT

Thanks a lot Martin !!

I really, really appreciate it very much !!

You're great!

Regards, B**no :-)

Re: Help needed to remplace belts on a BeoCord 5000/Aide au remplacement des courroies d'un BeoCord 5000

Dillen — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 06:55:37 GMT

Bruno,

Sure, you have an email !

Martin

PS: The email in your post was edited out (antispam).

Re: Help needed to remplace belts on a BeoCord 5000/Aide au remplacement des courroies d'un BeoCord 5000

bruno_destickere — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 03:58:45 GMT

Hello Martin,

I am also looking for the correct belts for the tapedeck section of my Beocord 5000 (1984-1986).

Could you still help ?

Regards,

Bruno Destickere

b**no.destickere@skynet.be

Re: Help needed to remplace belts on a BeoCord 5000/Aide au remplacement des courroies d'un BeoCord 5000

Dillen — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:22:45 GMT

Hi and welcome to Beoworld !

It's correct that the service manual doesn't tell you how to repair anything.
It's a common misunderstanding that the service manual will turn the owner into a technician with the skills to repair.
No, it merely tells the tech guy how the thing is made and that's how it should be.

I can supply correct belts for the tapedeck section of the Beocord 5000.
I can include belt mounting instructions with photos and text (english).

From your message to me sent through Ebay, I read that you have problems with the drawer motor too.
Check the drawer motor belt first.
If that's OK, check if the motor in the TAPEDECK SECTION runs when power is on.
If the tapedeck section motor runs; The drawer motor, it's connector/leads or its electronics are bad.
If the tapedeck section motor does NOT run when power is on; The power supply will have a fault. It's typically a
resistor acting as a fuse, that has burned. It can be replaced but that does require soldering and a minimum
of electronic tools and skills.

Your english is far better than my french.

Martin