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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: The end of Serenata?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219725.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:20:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:219725</guid><dc:creator>Calvin</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219725.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=219725</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s a shame really. &amp;nbsp;The Serenata (whilst a great looking piece of kit) is an overpriced and underperforming phone because it&amp;#39;s ability to go beyond the simple phone+text remit has been completely overshadowed by the iphone and other companies wither faster turnaround and technology advances. &amp;nbsp;Simply put, the tech-phone business evolves continuously and so it&amp;#39;s a bad market for B&amp;amp;O to be in if they want to make money.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the other hand though, I love the Serene. &amp;nbsp;4 years on, it still looks amazing and if I had to buy a phone tomorrow, it would be a Serene. &amp;nbsp;It fulfills the functions of &amp;#39;working phone and SMS&amp;#39; as well as &amp;#39;looks amazing&amp;#39; - on this basis it beats all other phones.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know this will raise eyebrows: Beoworld is often riddled by arguments about how B&amp;amp;O is overpriced design or that the functional equivalent can be found elsewhere but the fact remains that if you become a member, you almost certainly have already bought into the brand and that (when you bought the item/s) you too believed the design aspect to be amongst your prime concerns. I honestly don&amp;#39;t think buying a Serene over a cheap highstreet phone is any different from buying an Audi over a Skoda. &amp;nbsp;The innards are much the same (because they&amp;#39;re the same company) and you&amp;#39;re just paying for the look and a brand name. &amp;pound;500+ for some branding and a great design? &amp;nbsp;I must admit, I would say &amp;quot;yes.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It might seem crazy to others but we all spend crazy money on things we like, be it booze, be it cars, be it holidays, be it women. &amp;nbsp;It just so happens that I would gladly spend a lot on money on a great looking mobile phone. &amp;nbsp;So would and did others, this is why the Serene shifted thousands of units. &amp;nbsp;It&amp;#39;s no more ridiculous that paying &amp;pound;3,000+ for a CD player when I could get a great sounding one for &amp;pound;500 in the local electronics shop.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: The end of Serenata?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219710.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:53:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:219710</guid><dc:creator>DavidOd</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219710.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=219710</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with TWG - serenata was(is) a disgrace.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;B&amp;amp;O should have come up with something in the line of Serene (not sure what though)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway the phon market is too saturated with even the chinese making quite good replica&amp;#39;s...Painful...but good time to move on...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What next?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: The end of Serenata?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219705.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:14:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:219705</guid><dc:creator>vikinger</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219705.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=219705</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;GuyHui :&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m fairly certain that in the company annual report they said that they were getting out of the phone business altogether.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Graham&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hello,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are you talking about the mobile phone business ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It seems that the domestic phone business is quite prolific for B&amp;amp;O.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your feedback,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cheers,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Guy&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From the Company April statement to investors:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;New telephone &lt;br /&gt;For many years, Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen&amp;rsquo;s telephones have enjoyed considerable success. However, in line with the &lt;br /&gt;Group&amp;rsquo;s strategy plan, the management does not expect to continue to start development projects for this &lt;br /&gt;product category. Consequently, the Group has initiated its final concept for landline telephony in the form of a &lt;br /&gt;telephone with loudspeakers for among others hands-free conversations and conference calls. The telephone is &lt;br /&gt;also intended for internet telephony. This concept also allows the user to select colours in the full graphic &lt;br /&gt;display.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So just one phone to go?????&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Graham&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: The end of Serenata?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219700.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:42:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:219700</guid><dc:creator>GuyHui </dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219700.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=219700</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m fairly certain that in the company annual report they said that they were getting out of the phone business altogether.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Graham&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hello,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are you talking about the mobile phone business ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It seems that the domestic phone business is quite prolific for B&amp;amp;O.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your feedback,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cheers,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Guy&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: The end of Serenata?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219685.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:22:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:219685</guid><dc:creator>vikinger</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219685.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=219685</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Chrisreunion:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was browsing on B&amp;amp;O website this morning and just noticed that the website dedicated to the Serenata was..gone! Try serenatamobile.com, and it takes you back to the main website; however, the Serene website (serenemobile.com) is still working.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don&amp;#39;t you find it strange that the latest mobile, offering more capabilities than the Serene, is going away? Is this B&amp;amp;O&amp;#39;s capitulation in front of the Iphone?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m fairly certain that in the company annual report they said that they were getting out of the phone business altogether.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Graham&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: The end of Serenata?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219658.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:26:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:219658</guid><dc:creator>TWG</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219658.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=219658</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The Serenata shouldn&amp;#39;t have appeared! It is simply an embarassing product of a phone. The worst example for the category &amp;quot;Design and nothing more!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Totaly useless ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps they learned s.th. from their mistakes with Serene and Serenata or &amp;nbsp;that cheap Samsung MP3 player called Beosound 6 ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: The end of Serenata?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219635.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:17:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:219635</guid><dc:creator>xegoon</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219635.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=219635</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The Serenata was discontinued on december 2008 &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/04.gif" alt="Stick out tongue" /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: The end of Serenata?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219609.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 01:08:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:219609</guid><dc:creator>Beofan2</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219609.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=219609</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Serenata isn&amp;acute;t gone. But both will be discontinued.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>The end of Serenata?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219605.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:50:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:219605</guid><dc:creator>Chrisreunion</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/219605.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=219605</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I was browsing on B&amp;amp;O website this morning and just noticed that the website dedicated to the Serenata was..gone! Try serenatamobile.com, and it takes you back to the main website; however, the Serene website (serenemobile.com) is still working.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don&amp;#39;t you find it strange that the latest mobile, offering more capabilities than the Serene, is going away? Is this B&amp;amp;O&amp;#39;s capitulation in front of the Iphone?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>