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Re: Why did the LC2 die?

MicTheCat — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:39:55 GMT

Your wellcome

actually the only difference I can see between LC2 and AluDim is for some reason the AluDim sets the dim % value opposit as the LC2.

On LC2 LIGHT-1-GO sets 100% the AluDim 10% - strange why not keep the setting from LC2 and the they are direct interchangeble

But if you use light scenarios it's not a problem in daily use

Re: Why did the LC2 die?

Kokomo — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:27:25 GMT

mhampen:

When you have preconfigured scenarios (1-9) your just press LIGHT + # and that is the same for LC2

Great! A big thank you.

Re: Why did the LC2 die?

MicTheCat — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:57:42 GMT

When you have preconfigured scenarios (1-9) your just press LIGHT + # and that is the same for LC2

Re: Why did the LC2 die?

Kokomo — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:25:07 GMT

Well this is harder than I thought possible!

Reading the technical information regarding the Lintronic unit and leaving aside its high price (with Denmark's VAT), it does not seem to be capable of use with other LC2s in a pre-programmed light picture.

Incorporating with one or more with other LC2s would require, it seems, switching on the light picture programmed into the LC2s, THEN switching on the Lintronic(s) seperately to their pre-programmed dimmer level.

Is this correct?

Re: Why did the LC2 die?

ThePriest — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:55:00 GMT

mhampen:

I use the LK Touch IR 350 UNI, not as good as LC1/LC2 - no scene control only dim up/down - but you can use both Beo4 and Beo5.

Up to four in one zone can be remote controlled independently. Trafo regulated light sources is allso possible to control

Link to reseller with more info and pricing

http://shop.oneremote.dk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2456&osCsid=58b00qip5ioajmth0n230ak6d4

Remember you will also need a frame and one of the insert housings

Yes I bought 3 of these yesterday, much cheaper though

http://shop.oneremote.dk/content/43350_user_UK.pdf

I use them to control the Ice-cubes with the beo4 or finger touch, works great

see the attached video link for the usage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIA8VsQTL4Y

Re: Why did the LC2 die?

The_Beonic_Man — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:43:48 GMT

Those links provided look like they may offer you the alternatives you are looking for. I could only offer my advice about the Lutron Dimmers as that's all I have. They have not replaced my LC2s, rather work alongside them. The LC2s control 2 flos glo-ball floor lamps while the Rania dimmers control the rest of the lighting - i.e. ceiling lights and track lighting.

Before you buy anything be sure you know what type of bulbs and wattage it works with.

Simon.

Re: Why did the LC2 die?

Kokomo — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:34:51 GMT

Thanks for that. I now remember that I'd seen this before but forgotten about it!

Thanks again.

Re: Why did the LC2 die?

MicTheCat — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 03:35:38 GMT

kokomo:

Thanks Simon - appreciated. BUT, this and other recommendations about Lutron dimmers, don't really address the question as to how these were, or are, a straightforward alternative to the old LC2. Also, as I live in Spain, the 'home visit' isn't really an option. I'm beginning to think that the reason old LC2s command such high prices is because there is no single alternative. Am I correct?

Simple question please. Which model(s) will directly replace an LC2?

Simple answer http://www.lintronic.dk/AluDim.htm

Re: Why did the LC2 die?

MicTheCat — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 03:30:16 GMT

I use the LK Touch IR 350 UNI, not as good as LC1/LC2 - no scene control only dim up/down - but you can use both Beo4 and Beo5.

Up to four in one zone can be remote controlled independently. Trafo regulated light sources is allso possible to control

Link to reseller with more info and pricing

http://shop.oneremote.dk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2456&osCsid=58b00qip5ioajmth0n230ak6d4

Remember you will also need a frame and one of the insert housings

Re: Why did the LC2 die?

Kokomo — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 03:06:30 GMT

The_Beonic_Man:

You need to be absolutly certain about ordering the correct dimmers from Lutron whether the Rania range or other. Some are universal, some are IR controllable, some are 450v or different, some don't work with various energey saving bulbs and some don't work at all in the UK. Best way is to call Lutron direct and get a rep to come and do a home visit. They will survey your home, discuss your lighting requirements and give you the correct model numbers. Personally I ordered all mine from eBay at a fraction of the cost but then I knew the exact dimmer types I needed and wired most myself, which in my case was quite straightforward but this is not at all always the case, especially when working with dual dimmers where there is great risk if you wire it wrongly. In this case you should consult a qualified electrician but not all are familiar with Lutron wiring as they are an American company and relatively new in the European market in terms of their limited product ranges.

Simon.

Thanks Simon - appreciated. BUT, this and other recommendations about Lutron dimmers, don't really address the question as to how these were, or are, a straightforward alternative to the old LC2. Also, as I live in Spain, the 'home visit' isn't really an option. I'm beginning to think that the reason old LC2s command such high prices is because there is no single alternative. Am I correct?

Simple question please. Which model(s) will directly replace an LC2?

Re: Why did the LC2 die?

The_Beonic_Man — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:06:42 GMT

You need to be absolutly certain about ordering the correct dimmers from Lutron whether the Rania range or other. Some are universal, some are IR controllable, some are 450v or different, some don't work with various energey saving bulbs and some don't work at all in the UK. Best way is to call Lutron direct and get a rep to come and do a home visit. They will survey your home, discuss your lighting requirements and give you the correct model numbers. Personally I ordered all mine from eBay at a fraction of the cost but then I knew the exact dimmer types I needed and wired most myself, which in my case was quite straightforward but this is not at all always the case, especially when working with dual dimmers where there is great risk if you wire it wrongly. In this case you should consult a qualified electrician but not all are familiar with Lutron wiring as they are an American company and relatively new in the European market in terms of their limited product ranges.

Simon.

Re: Why did the LC2 die?

Kokomo — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:20:27 GMT

Keith Saunders:

I would recommend the Lutron Rania dimmers for the following reasons:-

No need to re-wire the light switch as they do not need a neutral connection (particularly important in the UK)

They can be controlled by the Beo5, XML file available on the Beo5 Download site

You can use up to 4 Rania units to control different zones and therefore use "One" touch scene lighting supported by the above Beo5 XML file

They come in many colours to match your decor.

Thanks Keith, but I've been checking out the Lutron B&O compatable products and as far as I can see the set ups cost many hundreds of pounds.

Can you tell me what single product in the range, controllable with the Beo4, is directly comparable and therefore can replace an LC2?

Re: Why did the LC2 die?

Quim43 — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:43:50 GMT

Ask your B&O dealer. There are the same dimmers totally compatible with your Beo4, but they are more expensive.

Re: Why did the LC2 die?

kruppking — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:39:42 GMT

Bugger,,,thanks for the quick reply.

they do look nice though,,might get a couple anyway and turn them on the old fashioned way....

Re: Why did the LC2 die?

Quim43 — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:35:00 GMT

kruppking:

OK, I'm looking at buying this.

http://www.cwlighting.co.uk/files/details.php?id=14

well, maybe a couple of them

Do I just hard wire it in and will it work straight away with my Beo 4?

I'm afraid it won't work with your Beo4. It works with the Beo5, if you download the xml file created by Keith.