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If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Serene one of "Dirty Dozen ugliest and lamest cellphones" by PC World magazine Google translation</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/209069.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:38:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:209069</guid><dc:creator>expoman</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/209069.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=209069</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I liked my Serene except when I had to manually dial a phone number. &amp;nbsp;I would always find the number jumbled as the cursor jumped from front to back of of the numbers, &amp;nbsp;made me want to throw it out the window. &amp;nbsp;The rotary retro dial may look good but could not pass the ease of use measure of pleasure. &amp;nbsp;The phone book is great but no one has every number in it. &amp;nbsp;The camera should have been left out, they could have made the price lower or made more profit. &amp;nbsp;Also the web access should have been axed, nothing to see on that size screen. &amp;nbsp;They forgot KISS keep it simple stupid.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serene one of "Dirty Dozen ugliest and lamest cellphones" by PC World magazine Google translation</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/209061.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:03:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:209061</guid><dc:creator>DavidOd</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/209061.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=209061</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I have tried lots of phones.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My enthusiasm for the Nokias, HTC&amp;#39;s and Iphones of this world wanes after a few weeks of owning one.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not the same can be said of the Serene - Its simplicity keeps me hooked.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nothing unncessary - simply the phone - &lt;b&gt;mobile telephone&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Being an artist, my tastes may not be main stream - I am just grateful that I can appreciate the serene for what it is.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serene one of "Dirty Dozen ugliest and lamest cellphones" by PC World magazine Google translation</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208456.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:27:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:208456</guid><dc:creator>Luke </dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208456.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=208456</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Dave:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Serene is perfect for me, i use it to SMS and call, and nothing compares to it&amp;#39;s performance, style and quality. If this one fails i&amp;#39;ll source another one &lt;i&gt;somehow!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Texting on this phone makes me feel like an idiot. I still have not gotten the hang of it..... I have the predictive text switched off as well... as I need to Switch between German and English often. Very annoying. This was something fantastic about the iPhone. On the up side, I have saved so much money on texting !&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/02.gif" alt="Big Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serene one of "Dirty Dozen ugliest and lamest cellphones" by PC World magazine Google translation</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208447.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:58:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:208447</guid><dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208447.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=208447</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Peter  :&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had a Serene for a while and to be honest was not impressed. Mine was unreliable -&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt; the motor for the opening would keep trying to shut it when it was already shut and ran down the battery - went back to Struer but came back just the same.&lt;/span&gt; The camera was useless as it was incredibly difficult to line up. The screen tends to get a mark across it and I tired of the ring tones. I am afraid my boring iPhone knocks spots off it as a phone. I agree it impresses other people but the most important person to impress is the owner! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ah, you must have had it in a place where a magnet was present!! So sad that B&amp;amp;O weren&amp;#39;t thorough with their knowledge of the product, they should have warned that placing the item near magnets sets off the motor! My Victorinox satchel has little magnets that keep the main flap of the bag shut, if the hinge came close to one of the magnets inside the pocket, it would buzz away until i moved it away from the magnet. Discovered this when i put it on top of an alarm clock (with the little speaker on top) where it opened and closed itself!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Camera is just an add on and by no means for serious use, living with this phone for almost 2 years now the screen does have light keypad marks, but it&amp;#39;s easy to live with, and the ringtones are fantastic, they are dignified and tasteful - every other phone is tacky in comparison.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Serene is perfect for me, i use it to SMS and call, and nothing compares to it&amp;#39;s performance, style and quality. If this one fails i&amp;#39;ll source another one &lt;i&gt;somehow!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serene one of "Dirty Dozen ugliest and lamest cellphones" by PC World magazine Google translation</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208421.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:13:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:208421</guid><dc:creator>vikinger</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208421.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=208421</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I am still using mine and find it OK as a phone and very good for sending texts once you get the hang of the circular layout and avoid touching the wheel which will send the cursor to somewhere other than where you want to type. As remarked above, the camera is actually very easy to use if used in vertical format (i.e you look down onto the screen whilst pointing the camera lens/ hinge forward.) This way of using the camera was missed in just about every review and resulted in an unjustified criticism of the camera function. (But B&amp;amp;O should have given some guidance in the instructions!)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As Peter says, it doesn&amp;#39;t stand up against the iPhone. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Graham&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serene one of "Dirty Dozen ugliest and lamest cellphones" by PC World magazine Google translation</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208319.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:33:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:208319</guid><dc:creator>Luke </dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208319.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=208319</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Touch wood.... but mine is OK. It has taken many falls too. I do miss my iPhone though.... and when the new one comes I will probably be upgrading back to that. That however is a phone the does not like to be dropped.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serene one of "Dirty Dozen ugliest and lamest cellphones" by PC World magazine Google translation</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208043.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:15:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:208043</guid><dc:creator>9 LEE</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208043.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=208043</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m not a great fan either, but what is PC World doing reviewing Mobile Phones?&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s like Mobile Phone Monthly reviewing PC&amp;#39;s.. a bit wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, i don&amp;#39;t like Serene&amp;#39;s - i will admit that, but it&amp;#39;s purely the usability i don&amp;#39;t like. As a design / form i think it was innovative and very stylish indeed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lee&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serene one of "Dirty Dozen ugliest and lamest cellphones" by PC World magazine Google translation</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208041.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:57:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:208041</guid><dc:creator>saf</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208041.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=208041</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Peter :&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The camera was useless as it was incredibly difficult to line up.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s actually very easy - if you share the vision of the phone&amp;#39;s creators that the world&amp;nbsp;is &amp;#39;vertical&amp;#39; and therefore best pictured in a vertical format, that is! &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/02.gif" alt="Big Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serene one of "Dirty Dozen ugliest and lamest cellphones" by PC World magazine Google translation</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208040.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:51:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:208040</guid><dc:creator>Puncher</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208040.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=208040</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;It never impressed me (neither the Serenata) - seems to me they try to be different for different&amp;#39;s sake without offering any real advantge in return.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serene one of "Dirty Dozen ugliest and lamest cellphones" by PC World magazine Google translation</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208034.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:20:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:208034</guid><dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208034.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=208034</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I had a Serene for a while and to be honest was not impressed. Mine was unreliable - the motor for the opening would keep trying to shut it when it was already shut and ran down the battery - went back to Struer but came back just the same. The camera was useless as it was incredibly difficult to line up. The screen tends to get a mark across it and I tired of the ring tones. I am afraid my boring iPhone knocks spots off it as a phone. I agree it impresses other people but the most important person to impress is the owner! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serene one of "Dirty Dozen ugliest and lamest cellphones" by PC World magazine Google translation</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208018.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:03:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:208018</guid><dc:creator>SWISS_2</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208018.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=208018</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;A&amp;nbsp;patois of Danish and Dutch ?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Interesting.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serene one of "Dirty Dozen ugliest and lamest cellphones" by PC World magazine Google translation</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/207962.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:47:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:207962</guid><dc:creator>fridsten</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/207962.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=207962</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Grimmeste is ugliest in Danish, so I guess that&amp;#39;s what it&amp;#39;s supposed to be. Especially since the authors name seems Danish too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Google doesn&amp;#39;t do a very good job translating.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PC World also bashes the Serenata &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.pcworld.com/article/163922-10/dirty_dozen_ugliest_and_lamest_cell_phones.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serene one of "Dirty Dozen ugliest and lamest cellphones" by PC World magazine Google translation</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/207961.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:46:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:207961</guid><dc:creator>saf</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/207961.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=207961</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;SWISS_2:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;( &amp;quot;The twelve grimmeste and most platteland phones&amp;quot; )&amp;nbsp; ?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It can be almost guessed, but anyway:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;grimmeste ... ugliest&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;platte ... buls**t (mobiles - in the article&amp;#39;s context or, indeed, more softly said &amp;#39;lamest&amp;#39; etc)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Both are Danish adjectives&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Platte land (as Ignace pointed out) is Dutch ... how it got into &amp;#39;translation&amp;#39;&amp;nbsp;though is a bit of a mystery to me, too&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/02.gif" alt="Big Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serene one of "Dirty Dozen ugliest and lamest cellphones" by PC World magazine Google translation</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/207953.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:14:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:207953</guid><dc:creator>Ignace</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/207953.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=207953</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;platteland&amp;quot; would mean &amp;quot;rural area&amp;quot; in Dutch, &lt;br /&gt;so my guess it isn&amp;#39;t Dutch ! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif" alt="Smile" /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Serene one of "Dirty Dozen ugliest and lamest cellphones" by PC World magazine Google translation</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/207947.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:30:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:207947</guid><dc:creator>SWISS_2</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/207947.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=207947</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;( &amp;quot;The twelve grimmeste and most platteland phones&amp;quot; )&amp;nbsp; ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just work here as a Perm. Resident, and I don&amp;#39;t own a Serene, but the words above are unknown and not part of the North American lexicon. I can attest that it&amp;nbsp;is not German, French, Italian, or Romanch.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Since another member recently questioned the need for sub-forums, and foreign language sections, perhaps someone here could translate the above for&amp;nbsp; us.&amp;nbsp; Is it perhaps The King&amp;#39;s English ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>