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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Idealab staff cut 50% from Business.dk  "Google translation"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208440.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:45:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:208440</guid><dc:creator>expoman</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208440.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=208440</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;As I understand it Idealab was the software development group created by TBS to work with on its own with Idealand the existing product development department that had been created back in the 60&amp;#39;s -70&amp;#39;s for outside designers to work with inside B&amp;amp;O staff to model new products. &amp;nbsp;Based on its track record this cut is likely long overdue.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Idealab staff cut 50% from Business.dk  "Google translation"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208345.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:55:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:208345</guid><dc:creator>blue2th</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208345.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=208345</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;where B&amp;amp;O has been sourcing components from other manufacturers, i think it has been disappointing that the recent products have been less obsolete proof than their products used to be.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;in one of the other postings, someone mentioned the Kuro panels.&amp;nbsp; With the premium that B&amp;amp;O commands, these panels should have been sourced and integrated with B&amp;amp;O&amp;nbsp;audio +&amp;nbsp;DVD/Blu ray that actually come out and stay &amp;quot;relevant&amp;quot; for a number of years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;they&amp;#39;ve done the right thing with waiting on blu ray, definitely the market was burnt with the different profiles. but reading about the execution of the blu ray integration, it seems like there&amp;#39;s room for improvement.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;simiarly, with the HDR2 and DVD2 they could have done&amp;nbsp;better from what i have read. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;lets hope their future direction is to rely more on specialist within each segment of material (panels, chips and software) and customise them to true B&amp;amp;O standards.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the Samsung association continues, I can see all new panels after next year being LED and OLED.&amp;nbsp; Samsung also supply the iphone chips, so there may be more room for improvement on digital audio front (compact size, bigger memory and execution of multi source within a central digital source - expanding the Beosound 5 concept).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Idealab staff cut 50% from Business.dk  "Google translation"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208316.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:13:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:208316</guid><dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208316.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=208316</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;10% hit the nail, I belive - the new CEO, Kalle, has to change the direction: The development of the BS5 followed a classic route, where the design was fine tuned by a designer working with the engineers within B&amp;amp;O. B&amp;amp;O will&amp;nbsp;continue to develop their &amp;quot;main&amp;quot; products in the same way, but they have stated that they will not focus on too many niche products in the future (the Serenata was a brilliant design, but the lack of a&amp;nbsp;usable touch screen didn&amp;#39;t help, by David Lewis - the David Lewis cabinets covering other not-so-good products have been obvious, DVD2/HDR2...).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is a much needed step to re-focus and actually carry out Kalle&amp;#39;s new plan for the company. I do belive that Kalle is doing the right thing. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Roger&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Idealab staff cut 50% from Business.dk  "Google translation"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208311.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:23:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:208311</guid><dc:creator>beocool</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208311.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=208311</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Puncher:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wonder what a &amp;quot;IdeaLab&amp;quot; of Beoworlders could do!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course here it is/would be free &amp;quot;free thinking&amp;quot;!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In threads about future products we already have given B&amp;amp;O lots of ideas. Let&amp;#39;s wait and see...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Idealab staff cut 50% from Business.dk  "Google translation"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208296.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:49:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:208296</guid><dc:creator>Mr10Percent</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208296.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=208296</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Would not be suprised if Idealab had 20 people working on 3-4 mobile phone concepts or 2-3 Standalone DVD/BR/disc-spinning concepts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Probalby a smart move, focusing on core large-scale A/V concepts rather than lots of shiny TBS toys.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;10%&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Idealab staff cut 50% from Business.dk  "Google translation"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208286.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:36:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:208286</guid><dc:creator>Puncher</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208286.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=208286</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I wonder what a &amp;quot;IdeaLab&amp;quot; of Beoworlders could do!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course here it is/would be free &amp;quot;free thinking&amp;quot;!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Idealab staff cut 50% from Business.dk  "Google translation"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208282.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:19:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:208282</guid><dc:creator>Harry2008</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208282.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=208282</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;His statements where quite clear indeed. Although done a few years ago.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the other hand the (translated) article does not specify what type of people they laid off and what happened in the relation the other development departments. In such troubled times I can understand that they want to combine such dpartments to crunch out innovations faster and at a lower costs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So if the foundations indeed have been laid, I can understand that extending this platform in the next few years need less people. Also &amp;quot;external sourcing&amp;quot; can make new developments more flexible and tuned too. You have a small team thinking things out, whilst programming and testing is done externally based on specifications. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It would be interesting to hear more from people aware of the actual situation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Idealab staff cut 50% from Business.dk  "Google translation"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208009.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 08:56:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:208009</guid><dc:creator>expoman</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/208009.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=208009</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Since this is the team that created Beosound 5 this does seem odd. &amp;nbsp;David Lewis is not shy about his feelings for this group.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Idealab staff cut 50% from Business.dk  "Google translation"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/207940.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:07:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:207940</guid><dc:creator>KingOfSnake</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/207940.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=207940</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Good article thanks, not surprising however. &amp;nbsp;On the one hand you might say that this department didn&amp;#39;t exactly do anything groundbreaking in the six years since its&amp;#39; formation.............&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Idealab staff cut 50% from Business.dk  "Google translation"</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/207921.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:14:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:207921</guid><dc:creator>expoman</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/207921.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=207921</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class="first"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;em&gt;By&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="mailto:vibj@berlingske.dk"&gt;Vibeke Daele Bjerrum&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Saturday,&lt;/em&gt;21&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;em&gt;March 2009, 08:00&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class="manchet first"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The difficulty of audio visual and group B &amp;amp; O has dismissed half of its innovation division, despite a rescue plan that includes many more new products.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;People are baffled by the strategy, but director Kalle Nielsen maintains its direction.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;There will be fewer conceived ideas for new products from Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen future.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;Audio and visual group, which is under heavy financial pressure after a nosedive know sales and declining earnings, has laid off a significant part of the staff in charge of devising new concepts and products to its portfolio.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;According to Berlingske Business&amp;#39; information is well over half of the 40 employees of the &amp;#39;Id&amp;eacute;fabrik, its product innovation department either been fired or have even left the company over the past six months.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Most have been dismissed in connection with the recently held firing rounds where approximately 400 employees had to wave goodbye to the job.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;But several of the B &amp;amp; Os, both current and former employees say to Berlingske Business, that they are baffled by the decision to cut so badly in the innovation department.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;It is contrary to the strategy, says the criticism.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;#39;How can we on the one hand say that you will have several new products on the street, and with the other hand cut the department to develop them?, &amp;quot;Says the bemused by an anonymous B &amp;amp; O employee.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Redundancies are part of the rescue plan and new strategy, Pole Position, CEO Kalle Nielsen&amp;#39;s part.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Sales of new double&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;The goal is to reverse the trend in the B &amp;amp; O, who had a true r&amp;aelig;dsels&amp;aring;r in 2008 with a naughty streak downward revisions and hiding rate and a sub-target is that sales of new products, more than double in the coming year.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;But according to CEO Kalle Nielsen, there is nothing contradictory in, on the one hand, to dismiss in the innovation department and on the other hand, focus on that new products will save the company.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;quot;For the first we cut less than the average cuts in the organization of product development organization.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;And furthermore we change the way we develop new products by establishing a common technology platform, so one should not start from scratch to develop new technologies to all new products.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;Thereby we achieve a more efficient, while we can focus on developing new product features, &amp;quot;explains the director.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Pined&amp;oslash;d forced to cut&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;And he backed up by Lars Topholm, equity analyst at investment bank Carnegie.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;quot;The cuts are natural in that they are in crisis and in that they create a single technology platform, so they need fewer men,&amp;quot; says Lars Topholm.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;He sees, however, also risks associated with the B &amp;amp; Os cuts, but stresses that at this time is the key for B &amp;amp; O simply to survive.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;quot;There is obviously a risk of losing the creative element, and it is my great concern for the B &amp;amp; O prospectively, but inversely with their economic situation is really critical, and they are pined&amp;oslash;d forced to cut.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;They simply do not have the freedom to invest in innovation to the same extent as before. &amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Fear old modes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;However, it is not just a question of whether B &amp;amp; O management on the one hand, rates of innovation, on the other hand, cuts in development that concerns the B &amp;amp; O employees, Berlingske Business has spoken to.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;They argue that it is primarily the employees of the former Id&amp;eacute;Lab made redundant and that there is a shift in the company towards earlier times when it absolutely had designers who specified.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Since Id&amp;eacute;Lab was founded in 2003 by the then Director Torben Ballegaard Sorensen, it was as a counterpart to the established development in the company, which chief designers as David Lewis or Jacob Jensen came with an idea, the engineers translated into reality.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Id&amp;eacute;Lab would rather develop digital concepts, but already in 2006 in an article in the renowned business magazine Business Week, it was clear that cooperation between the designers and the digital concept developers did not work optimally.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;quot;They have their own agenda,&amp;quot; said chief designer Davis Lewis for the magazine about the people from Id&amp;eacute;Lab.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Digital important development&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Many of them are now redundant, including a portion of those who were part of the BeoSound 5, B &amp;amp; Os newly launched digital sound system.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;But the thrushes B &amp;amp; O down Id&amp;eacute;Lab and digital developments can have fatal consequences for the company, warned a source with detailed knowledge of B &amp;amp; O, and suggests that it is precisely in Id&amp;eacute;Lab, digital ideas born and developed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;B &amp;amp; O director Kalle Nielsen refuses, however, that the company in any way cut down on the digital development of decimate Id&amp;eacute;Lab.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;#39;With the adjustments we&amp;#39;ve made, we have sought to balance the number of employees who work with new concepts and with those who subsequently achieve them, &amp;quot;he said and stressed that the B &amp;amp; O aims to be advanced as of digital innovation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;quot;Digital development is absolutely essential.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;Indeed, the development of digital technology a key element in Pole Position Strategy and we have shifted responsibility for the top level of the product development organization so that the digital has been pulled far forward, &amp;quot;says Kalle Nielsen.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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