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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: BeoSound 9000 &amp; beolab 4500 &amp; Beolab 2</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/197568.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:35:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:197568</guid><dc:creator>Jandyt</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/197568.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=197568</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hey Rob, welcome to Beoworld&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif" alt="Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s worth mentioning that B&amp;amp;O are about to bring out a new Subwoofer. Alledged to be cheaper than the Beolab2, it is tulip shaped and can be wall mounted!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Can&amp;#39;t wait to see the first pictures.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PS&amp;nbsp; White Beosound 9000!&amp;nbsp; Lucky you!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;font-family:times new roman,times;"&gt;Andy T.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoSound 9000 &amp; beolab 4500 &amp; Beolab 2</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/197557.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:49:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:197557</guid><dc:creator>rayfenwick</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/197557.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=197557</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The secret with subs (and it appears it IS a secret, considering all the boomy farty noises I so often hear from other people&amp;#39;s) is that they should not be as loud as many seem to think.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The other secret (!) is the crossover point/filter is often set way too high, so the sub is shouting out all these low-mid frequencies as well, which our ears can pinpoint. &amp;nbsp;The result is a nasty muddy mess, which chav boy racers in their silly cars like, but to anyone who still has ears that work it is an awful noise.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With the exception of some bass drums, very low bass guitar, orchestral bass and some synths, musical instruments (and voices) are pitched above the level that a sub should be reproducing, and so you should almost never get very much coming out of a sub with music - only in movies should you really be aware of it, and even then it should not dominate, just add.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The exception is these systems like Bose Acoustimass etc where the satellite speakers are tweeters with a bit of mid, and the sub isn&amp;#39;t so sub, as it has to make up for the lack of mid-bass in the system. &amp;nbsp;Some people like them - and that&amp;#39;s their choice - but for me they totally destroy any natural-sounding soundstage. They&amp;#39;re ok to watch movies on, and casually listen to music, but if you&amp;#39;re serious then IMHO they are pretty hopeless...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just my few rubles... &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/07.gif" alt="Unsure" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoSound 9000 &amp; beolab 4500 &amp; Beolab 2</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/197541.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:02:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:197541</guid><dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/197541.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=197541</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the very quick answers. I am busy bidding (German Ebay) and will look for speakers with all cables etc. After following a few auctions on ebay I have noticed that the Beolab 4500s are selling for about 650&amp;euro; - 800&amp;euro;. Mind you I will not go above 650 as then i would prefer the older Beolab 4000 speakers (for about 1.000&amp;euro;, ebay)&amp;nbsp; - i found their sound so far most pleasent to my ears. What ever happens there will always be space in my house for either of these speakers :-)..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will ask my local dealer for a demo before buying the subwoofer&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rob&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoSound 9000 &amp; beolab 4500 &amp; Beolab 2</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/197347.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 08:24:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:197347</guid><dc:creator>joeyboygolf</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/197347.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=197347</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;You will need Mk2 Powerlink cables if you want the displays to work. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am not a lover of Subwoofers when listening to music. The bass they produce is fuzzy. Fine for DVD&amp;#39;s if you like watching that sort of thing but not for music. Mind you, you just wouldnt believe the number of hi-fi setups I see which are set to minimum treble, maximum base and loudness on!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is it my ears or the others?????&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: BeoSound 9000 &amp; beolab 4500 &amp; Beolab 2</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/197339.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:58:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:197339</guid><dc:creator>birgerbum</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/197339.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=197339</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi rob&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It will work fine when&amp;nbsp;you bought the belolab 4500&amp;nbsp; did you remember to get the powerlink cables as well&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;regards&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;jan&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>BeoSound 9000 &amp; beolab 4500 &amp; Beolab 2</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/197337.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:53:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:197337</guid><dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/197337.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=197337</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;i have become the proud new owner of a BS ltd ed. 9000 in white (nr. 450).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am thinking of buying Beolab 4500 panel speakers (ebay) and a beolab 2 (white new) for bass.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is there any reason this set up will not work?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are there any usefull tips that i should consider?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rob&lt;/p&gt;
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