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Re: Pristine Bang& Olufsen Beocenter 2000 with B& O stand and S-30 speakers

joeyboygolf — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:19:03 GMT

Suggest that he puts it on eBay then you can both see what it's worth. I wouldn't give him £50 for the whole lot and I suspect that's about what ebay will say as well. None of it is desireable except of course by him and you!

Re: Pristine Bang& Olufsen Beocenter 2000 with B& O stand and S-30 speakers

wirralsimon — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:30:26 GMT

Medogsfat:

Jimmy2Shoes:

He reckoned if he sold everything separately then he would get £70 for the cabinet, £50 for the speakers and another £100+ for the center itself.

Not a snowball in hell's chance.

What he is quoting is the very maximum he would get if 2 idiots started a bidding war on all items! He is trying to make it sound a bargain but believe me - it isn't. If he can get that amount selling it seperately then ask yourself why he isn't doing this?

Chris.

I quite agree. To put it another way, if the 2000 is worth £100+ without speakers how come the updated model with the same "£50" speakers hasn't attracted any bids when the start price is 99p!

Simon

Re: Pristine Bang& Olufsen Beocenter 2000 with B& O stand and S-30 speakers

Medogsfat — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:24:33 GMT

Jimmy2Shoes:

He reckoned if he sold everything separately then he would get £70 for the cabinet, £50 for the speakers and another £100+ for the center itself.

Not a snowball in hell's chance.

What he is quoting is the very maximum he would get if 2 idiots started a bidding war on all items! He is trying to make it sound a bargain but believe me - it isn't. If he can get that amount selling it seperately then ask yourself why he isn't doing this?

Chris.

Re: Pristine Bang& Olufsen Beocenter 2000 with B& O stand and S-30 speakers

wirralsimon — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:52:18 GMT

The 2002 supports metal cassette tapes.

see

http://www.beocentral.com/families/bc2000

Simon

Re: Pristine Bang& Olufsen Beocenter 2000 with B& O stand and S-30 speakers

Jimmy2Shoes — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:12:53 GMT

wirralsimon:

The ebay auction linked to above ends tomorrow and has reached the dizzy heights of 99p for more or less the same system without the cabinet.

Simon

Hahaha...how does the 2002 differ from the 2000?

Re: Pristine Bang& Olufsen Beocenter 2000 with B& O stand and S-30 speakers

wirralsimon — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:54:58 GMT

The ebay auction linked to above ends tomorrow and has reached the dizzy heights of 99p for more or less the same system without the cabinet.

Simon

Re: Pristine Bang& Olufsen Beocenter 2000 with B& O stand and S-30 speakers

wirralsimon — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:48:34 GMT

If he sold it all separately he would get:

£40 for each if the cartridges if they both work, but they will be getting to an age where that is far from certain, even if they have never been used. The suspension can harden due to age rendering the cartridges useless.

£5-20 for the music centre without cartridges.

He may find no buyer at all for the cabinet as it's no use to anyone without the centre, certainly no more than £20.

The speakers come up regularly on eBay and gor for between £10 and £30 depending on condition.

£100 is the absolute maximum that that the whole package is worth, with the vast bulk of that value coming from the cartridges and not the centre or the cabinet.

Simon

Ps: the speakers aren't the weak link, the amplifier in the centre is!

Re: Pristine Bang& Olufsen Beocenter 2000 with B& O stand and S-30 speakers

Jimmy2Shoes — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:31:58 GMT

Hi Chris

Yes the seller was telling me just how expensive the cartridges are! Although he offered to give me an extra one IF i paid full price (£195).

He reckoned if he sold everything separately then he would get £70 for the cabinet, £50 for the speakers and another £100+ for the center itself.

I'm still really torn between waiting for a 7000 series to come up and getting this one and maybe upgrading the speakers at a later date.

Arrggghhh decisions decisions!!

James

Re: Pristine Bang& Olufsen Beocenter 2000 with B& O stand and S-30 speakers

Medogsfat — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:14:53 GMT

Hi James - it's all a matter of what you think it is worth. Now personally I wouldn't give him more than the value of the cartridge & speakers (£60 maximum) but having owned a couple of the 7000 series centers I wouldn't even contemplate buying it! The S30 speakers are OK but nowhere near as good as S45-2's.

There is an inherent weakness in the lids of ALL beocenters due to the nature of plexiglass which isn't confined to the 7000 series. It really depends on how well it has been cared for. The cabinets aren't THAT rare and often crop up on ebay for vey little money.

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet but the most expensive/valuable part of the turntable based Beocenters is the cartridge/stylus which will cost well in excess £100 to replace from Sound Smith in the USA.

Chris.

Re: Pristine Bang& Olufsen Beocenter 2000 with B& O stand and S-30 speakers

Jimmy2Shoes — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 06:51:58 GMT

I went to have a look at the BC 2000 yesterday - it is in excellent condition albeit it doesn't have the same quality feel as the 7000/7700. I was surprised at how good the s-30 speakers were...but would probably upgrade to the s-45s or s-60s at some point.

The seller seems to think it is worth the money but I told him i there was no way i was paying £195 - I think i could get it for £120 but I guess you guys think I would be mad right?!

The reason I'm considering it is because it is in a cabinet and I know they are hard to come by - he also said that on the 7000/7700 the turntable lids often break or dont hold up - is this true in your experience?

Thanks

James

Re: Pristine Bang& Olufsen Beocenter 2000 with B& O stand and S-30 speakers

Peter — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:12:18 GMT

Couldn't agree more with all advice given. The most valuable bit of the 2000 is the cartridge which is a MMC20S and if perfect should be about £30. The centre to get these days is the 7700 or similar. It will need new belts for the cassette and it will need a little TLC as said above, but it will outperform any new music centre. The 2000 was simply not very good even when launched. The finish around the base is not even real wood. The amplifier is particularly poor - the 7000 series has a superb amplifier in contrast.

Re: Pristine Bang& Olufsen Beocenter 2000 with B& O stand and S-30 speakers

burantek — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:18:03 GMT

welcome to beoworld!

i would recommend just what everyone else already has...

a 700x/7700 and a pair of early s45's or perhaps p45's...

i like these centers very much. this series can be remote controlled, i am 99% sure the 2000 can't... the series is cosmetically very similar (same footprint) -the 700x has a clear cover over the ttable. the 7700 has a solid aluminum cover.

the 7700 also has the ability of 2 way communication with the mcp as rayfenwick mentioned. this might be nice to have if you decide to expand your system into other rooms w/ a mcl82 setup, and then you could use the regular 1 way terminal in the main room.

the s45 is the best "bang for the buck" speaker b&o ever made, IMHO, and the p45's are very elegant when wall mounted.

also, the cabinets (SC70, i believe ...different location than present, and also SC77) are beautiful pieces and will fit any of the 7 series. btw, there are matching stands to the base of the cabinet for beovox speakers of the era.

enjoy!

Re: Pristine Bang& Olufsen Beocenter 2000 with B& O stand and S-30 speakers

rayfenwick — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:50:08 GMT

I'm in the midst of rebuilding a very tidy 7700 with the 2-way master contol panel remote... definitely my fave of all this style of Beocenter.

It, along with a not so nice but very worth saving one will be available. The 3rd (and best) I'm keeping

I don't suppose anyone's got a stand/cabinet/whatever it's called available? [:'(]

Re: Pristine Bang& Olufsen Beocenter 2000 with B& O stand and S-30 speakers

wirralsimon — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:33:10 GMT

Lucky guess!

Re: Pristine Bang& Olufsen Beocenter 2000 with B& O stand and S-30 speakers

Jimmy2Shoes — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:23:58 GMT

Would that be Stotty1111 by any chance?

James