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Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

Puncher — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:59:58 GMT

If they do as Moxxey fears and introduce a HiDef video source without an updated BS3 to decode the HiDef audio it'll be very interesting to hear their reasoning! (on the other hand they could release a series of software updates over the coming years to try and introduce it on the fly - just before the next model is released). Sorry

Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

Beolab — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:49:58 GMT

Moxxey i understand you perfectly, but i just hanged up on the "scart cable - sound issue" sentence you wrote.

The dvd player is only a transport, and only read the information on the disc and then the motherbord´s onboard software and audio / video processor´s (DAC´s) decodes the picture and the soundstream.

And yes Alex it is a ribbon data cable, but not as wide as an IDE cable. I just wrote IDE so people here understand what sort of cable i menth, but they look the same but thinner.

Regards

Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

Alex — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:19:58 GMT

Beolab:

24p = Yes Mk III and MK IV got 24p support.

And moxxey it´s not a scart cable between the dvd drive and the motherboard. They use computer IDE Ultra ATA cabling..

No, they simply use a ribbon cable. IDE Ultra ATA is merely a method of parallel data transfer, which doesn't mean it's similar in any way to the way the data is carried from the DVD mech to the BeoVision 7-40 chassis.

Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

moxxey — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 07:31:15 GMT

Beolab:

24p = Yes Mk III and MK IV got 24p support.

And moxxey it´s not a scart cable between the dvd drive and the motherboard. They use computer IDE Ultra ATA cabling..

I think you miss my point entirely. I have no idea what cable is used from the mechanism to the motherboard, but I do assume that there is no audio decoding done on the mechanism side (and that's the point). So, if they insert a Blu-ray mechanism, then this is unlikely to decode the HD audio before passing to the TV motherboard. It will have to be done by the BS3.

Unless I'm wrong - and I hope I'll be wrong - this would mean that the internal Blu-ray drive wouldn't decode the audio to the level of, say, the Playstation 3.

Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

imac — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:57:09 GMT

The MKIII does have 24p, you just need the newest software update.

From what my dealer told me, the BV7-52" was put on hold due quality issues with the 52" panel.

Regards

imac

Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

koning — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:41:14 GMT

The dealers have they already seen this new BV7-40 MKIV

Are the improvements huge?

Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

PierreR — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:16:56 GMT

BV7 mk III does not have 24p.

Do you know when the new 55" BV7 are arriving?

Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

Beolab — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:11:57 GMT

24p = Yes Mk III and MK IV got 24p support.

And moxxey it´s not a scart cable between the dvd drive and the motherboard. They use computer IDE Ultra ATA cabling..

And they are going to use Sharp panels in the new BV8-40 and the new Bv7-55, but the Bv7-40 MkIV they still use Samsung, but the new 2-4ms 120Hz Ultra Glare panel.

Samsung are far ahead Sharp in LCD technology, so i don´t think you should be disappointed because of that..

Regards

Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

The_Beonic_Man — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:06:55 GMT

Clakke:

PierreR:

B&O are gonne kill them self if they dont start making up to date produkt

Im not gonna spent about 12-13.000 euro on a outdatet produkt, and i dont think im the only one

You are not alone. I just bought a Loewe

B R

Clakke

You are definitly not alone. I just bought a BV7-40!

Simon.

Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

ed7 — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:56:49 GMT

That is definitely a step in the right direction ,was not impressed at all with samsung panel picture quality!!!

Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

takktakk — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:50:03 GMT

From what I heard they're switching to Sharp panels. I have this from what I would say is a somewhat good source.

Meaning not always right, but more often so than wrong :-)

Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

Clakke — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:34:40 GMT

PierreR:

B&O are gonne kill them self if they dont start making up to date produkt

Im not gonna spent about 12-13.000 euro on a outdatet produkt, and i dont think im the only one

You are not alone. I just bought a Loewe

B R

Clakke

Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

PierreR — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:23:09 GMT

B&O are gonne kill them self if they dont start making up to date produkt

Im not gonna spent about 12-13.000 euro on a outdatet produkt, and i dont think im the only one

Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

moxxey — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:48:53 GMT

Roger:

Based on the spec's I've seen they haven't included TrueHD or DTS-HD among the BS3 sound formats, so I do hope that the new internal bluray will do the decoding and pass it on as PCM to the BS3 - anything else would be embarrassing for B&O.

Oh god, good point. As I'm assuming the existing drive is merely a drive with a scart-type cable to the main motherboard, I seriously doubt they are going to get a chip capable of decoding the audio then passing it to the BS3, in the new Blu-ray internal drive. Surely the drive would merely be a drive mechanism update?

Why? Well, it's a drive mechanism replacement for the existing BV7-40 MKIII (and only £400, which is 'cheap' for B&O), so there's no way you are going get True HD decoding built-in to a £400 internal player.

Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

ed7 — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:27:18 GMT

I know i owned both types avant& bv,i was asking if b&o still using samsung panels?i thought they stopped future co-operating with samsung!!!