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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: End of BeoLab 2?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/180091.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:51:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:180091</guid><dc:creator>Puncher</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/180091.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=180091</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Never having shopped for a subwoofer my initial thoughts are that a servo based system would make sense, whereby the position of the cone is controlled rather than driven open loop. Does anyone know how many top flight subs are servo based and the pros/cons of said implementation?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: End of BeoLab 2?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/180070.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:53:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:180070</guid><dc:creator>bayerische</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/180070.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=180070</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve heard that too, the ELAC I linked to is also in a push-pull configuration.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A &amp;quot;musical&amp;quot; sub is indeed expensive and difficult to make.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: End of BeoLab 2?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/180068.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:50:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:180068</guid><dc:creator>burantek</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/180068.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=180068</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;i remember reading that this might be a dual throw sub, lending itself to quicker response than the bl2?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: End of BeoLab 2?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/180064.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:42:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:180064</guid><dc:creator>bayerische</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/180064.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=180064</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Jeff, the faster and punchier the sub, the more expensive it is to make.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Beo is not going to be able to build a better sub for half price...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For example the best sub I&amp;#39;ve ever heard is the ELAC 2080. It costs 3378 euros. It has ICE power and and digital crossovers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PDF file: You can trust it! &lt;a href="http://scanteknik.fi/userfiles/documents/elac/Subwoofer/sub2080D.pdf" target="_blank" title="http://scanteknik.fi/userfiles/documents/elac/Subwoofer/sub2080D.pdf"&gt;http://scanteknik.fi/userfiles/documents/elac/Subwoofer/sub2080D.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It seems to be very difficult to make a good subwoofer. Subwoofers with a lot of sound and boomy bass is easy, they simply don&amp;#39;t go deep enough.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Beo should make something on par with the Bass in the Beolab 5&amp;#39;s. Fast, deep and responsive.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Small drivers won&amp;#39;t cut it, since they can&amp;#39;t go deep enough at a reasonable sound pressure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: End of BeoLab 2?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/180049.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 12:30:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:180049</guid><dc:creator>burantek</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/180049.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=180049</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;bayerische:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Roger,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If your sources are right, then Beo is making something completely wrong... Again!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I mean, the BL2 isn&amp;#39;t that good, and making something smaller sound wise and less performing?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh dear...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To what use? Connected to ones computer?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i don&amp;#39;t know... but i like the idea! i think that the bl2 is a bit pricey and may not suit my avant room well. i think that a lesser sub (hopefully w/ better music response) would put me in line to buy one!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: End of BeoLab 2?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/180047.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 12:27:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:180047</guid><dc:creator>bayerische</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/180047.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=180047</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Roger,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If your sources are right, then Beo is making something completely wrong... Again!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I mean, the BL2 isn&amp;#39;t that good, and making something smaller sound wise and less performing?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh dear...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To what use? Connected to ones computer?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: End of BeoLab 2?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/180014.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:31:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:180014</guid><dc:creator>cjocc</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/180014.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=180014</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;So Roger, could you elaborate a bit on the &amp;quot;half performance&amp;quot; - and I mean a bit more serious than smiles &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/16.gif" alt="Whistle" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: End of BeoLab 2?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/179996.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:00:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:179996</guid><dc:creator>Carl Sheerman</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/179996.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=179996</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;So its a Beolab 1, if its half a s good &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: End of BeoLab 2?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/179994.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 08:57:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:179994</guid><dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/179994.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=179994</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;...it will only play every second Hz &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/02.gif" alt="Big Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Roger&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: End of BeoLab 2?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/179989.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 08:46:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:179989</guid><dc:creator>Xseries</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/179989.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=179989</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;...if everyhting is half (can&amp;#39;t really call it Beolab1 though) - will it go down to half the frequency level of the old one????&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: End of BeoLab 2?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/179981.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 08:18:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:179981</guid><dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/179981.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=179981</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;BL 2 will stay on - the new sub is a smaller one, both&amp;nbsp;when it comes to performance and price. Perhaps not a budget product, but close to half the price of the BL 2 according to our sources.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Roger&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>End of BeoLab 2?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/179910.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 02:13:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:179910</guid><dc:creator>avus17</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/179910.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=179910</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Wil BeoLab 2 be discontinued when a new sub woofer arrives to the stores? Will the noew sub be supperior to the BeoLab2 or is it ment more as a budget product?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>