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Re: Using a non B&O Panel TV in a B&O setup? Is it possible?

David — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:55:56 GMT

Thought I would let you know how I got on with the Non B&O TV.

Well I purchased a 42" Pioneer 427XD plasma screen and wall mounted it below my Beolab 3500. I followed Keiths instructions and everything works very well.

I can control the TV with the Beo4 and access DVD and Sky+ with the Beo4. I have also purchased a second Sky box which is HD just for the Pioneer TV. The picture is amazing in HD, even better than my trusty Avant dvd in the main room.

I'm thinking now that I won't bother with the new BV7 I shall keep the Pioneer plasma and put the money saved into a used BV4 or BV9 for the main room so I can have HD all round the house.

One thing that I am having problems with is the linked picture quality. My BV1 and BV6 which are linked to the Avant have always had a slightly grainy picture but I have learnt to live with it. Now the Pioneer plasma is linked up this too has the same grainy picture but it's alot more noticable. There is a signal amp behind the Avant and another in the bedroom with the BV1 but I think they are masking the problem.

Any ideas?

Re: Using a non B&O Panel TV in a B&O setup? Is it possible?

David — Thu, 31 May 2007 12:53:55 GMT

Thought I was pushing my luck with the surround sound! Thanks for all your help.

Cheers,

David.

Re: Using a non B&O Panel TV in a B&O setup? Is it possible?

Keith Saunders — Thu, 31 May 2007 11:48:45 GMT

David,

Sharp certainly make LCD panels for B&O, but I do not remember any Samsung LCD panels. Panasonic is certainly a main supplier for Plasma screens.

Whilst you could add further B&O active speakers in the same way as your BeoLab 3500 via the Masterlink, it would not be surround sound, it would just be extra active speakers in the same room. Equally you could purchase a NON B&O TV with surround sound, but you could not add B&O active speakers. Well to be totally correct, it is possible, but it would add quite a lot of cost and not be a normal configuration, so if you were thinking of that route it maybe better to purchase an existing B&O TV with surround sound.

Re: Using a non B&O Panel TV in a B&O setup? Is it possible?

David — Thu, 31 May 2007 08:57:23 GMT

Am I right in thinking that Samsung and Sharp make the LCD panels for B&O and Panasonic make the plasma panels?

One more thought....if I wanted to add surround sound to the room with the non B&O TV could I do this using B&O active speakers and use the Beo4?

Re: Using a non B&O Panel TV in a B&O setup? Is it possible?

Keith Saunders — Thu, 31 May 2007 06:30:04 GMT

No problem David,

You may wish to focus your initial review on LCD TV's which are either made by Sharp or have Sharp screens integrated in them. The BeoCentre 6's have Sharp made screens in them and very good they are too.

Re: Using a non B&O Panel TV in a B&O setup? Is it possible?

David — Thu, 31 May 2007 05:11:44 GMT

Thanks for all your help Keith. I'm now reading throufgh reviews for plasma and lcd TV's so I can choose one!

Cheers,

David.

Re: Using a non B&O Panel TV in a B&O setup? Is it possible?

Keith Saunders — Thu, 31 May 2007 00:59:51 GMT

David,

You can add a Sky HD box to your non B&O TV in your second lounge, but you could not control it with the Beo4.

You could add the Sky HD box to the AVANT using the STB (Set Top Box Controller) which would allow you to control it using the Beo4 in the second lounge, HOWEVER whilst the picture would be very good on both TV's it would not be HD. The reason is that the AVANT (CRT technology) and any link TV connected via the RF (Coax) cannot display HD

So, if you really want Sky HD with HD quality in your second lounge, then you would need to use the Sky HD remote control or purchase a product that either links Sky boxes or converts Beo4 IR codes to Sky HD. Given what you have previously stated through this thread I suggest for the time being at least you use "standard" Sky connected to your AVANT with the STB controller. You will be able to control it in the link room with the Beo4 and without further cost.

Re: Using a non B&O Panel TV in a B&O setup? Is it possible?

David — Thu, 31 May 2007 00:15:16 GMT

Thanks for the info.

So following the info given I should now have a non B&O TV fully working in my second lounge using my BEO4 remote. The only thing the remote won't do is switch the TV on and off ? But I can live with that.

Now if the room with the non B&O TV has a Sky HD box in it can this box be controlled via the Beo4 or this to much work?

Re: Using a non B&O Panel TV in a B&O setup? Is it possible?

beoaus — Wed, 30 May 2007 22:36:22 GMT

When you look at the link frequency in the Avant (599 on my old unit) you may need to ensure the Link frequency modulator is switched to permanently on.

Without this setting a non B&O TV cannot turn the RF signalling on. This setting should have little effect on your other linked B&O TV's.

I feel the detail in this thread should be part of a FAQ. I wrote a process on the old forum but I think its gone. Keith's instruction is far superior though.

Beoaus.

Re: Using a non B&O Panel TV in a B&O setup? Is it possible?

Keith Saunders — Wed, 30 May 2007 16:03:22 GMT

Your non B&O TV stays on the same channel all the time which is tuned to the link frequency. When you change channel on the Beo4 the AVANT changes channel and sends the new channel over the RF cable which remains at the same link frequency. So if you tune the link frequency say to the first channel on the non B&O TV it you will always use it on that same channel.

Re: Using a non B&O Panel TV in a B&O setup? Is it possible?

David — Wed, 30 May 2007 14:49:04 GMT

Thanks Keith you are a Star. To sum things up then all I need is a cheap new TV for the second lounge. Run a 75 ohm coax from my Avant link socket via a spliter or disribution amp to the aerial in socket of the new TV and leave the Beolab 3500 still conected to the masterlink cable?

How does the TV know how to change channel with the Beo4?

Re: Using a non B&O Panel TV in a B&O setup? Is it possible?

Keith Saunders — Wed, 30 May 2007 12:28:56 GMT

To ensure good impedance matching without an amplifier you could use a splitter like the one below

Re: Using a non B&O Panel TV in a B&O setup? Is it possible?

Keith Saunders — Wed, 30 May 2007 12:24:07 GMT

You could just use a splitter, but it would be better to use a multi-output aerial distribution amplifier because to have the best picture on all TV's the impedance matching of each cable is important.

Re: Using a non B&O Panel TV in a B&O setup? Is it possible?

David — Wed, 30 May 2007 12:17:41 GMT

Great stuff, got that. Now I already have two other tv's sharing this link socket.Do I just split one of the cables with a spliter and take it to the new tv or does that weaken the signal too much?

Re: Using a non B&O Panel TV in a B&O setup? Is it possible?

Keith Saunders — Wed, 30 May 2007 12:13:56 GMT

On page 56 of the reference manual the RF output is marked "LINK" so it is the socket above where your aerial is plugged in