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Re: BeoLab 9 & sub-woofer

wonderfulelectric — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:46:00 GMT

lol... That's really okay Dave. But you should know that I am 21 too.You are not the only young one around here you know.lolz..

Have a great weekend!

Alexander

Re: BeoLab 9 & sub-woofer

Dave — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:46:01 GMT

I'm pretty mature for 21... what were you doing when you were 21? That isn't relevant, i quite clearly typed there, don't take what i say personally. It's not a personal attack.

wonderfulelectric:
I dunno why you guys are reacting so strongly to the statement I just made. Ask one of the directors at B&O and ask about their branding strategy and I bet they will tell you that " instead of giving what other manufacturers are offering we are trying to provide an alternative more avant-garde approach to making electronics".
So giving the Beolab8000s a genuine upgrade will be sorta apologizing for its offbeat appeal.

- You have a good point, i misinterpreted what you said there - big time, it didn't read like that at all, sorry! I need to be more mindful but as much as i do, so do you when typing, things are bound to be misinterpreted on a forum / online where there is no body lanuage or tone of voice to gauge on.

I won't be so snappy next time, sorry sorry i'm really generally a gentle person, honest! And maybe i was in a slightly bad mood.

Re: BeoLab 9 & sub-woofer

koning — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:25:09 GMT

The replay is ment for the post from Dave

Dave it's time for you to grow up!!

Have you ever listen to other loudspeakers??The beolab 8000 is a beautiful loudspeaker a icon but the sound is not very good.

It's to bad B&O didn't upgrade this speaker (a reel upgrade!!)

Re: BeoLab 9 & sub-woofer

wonderfulelectric — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:10:56 GMT

koning:
Yes, what you are writing isn't true, ding ding ding!
It's time for you to grown up!!
Have you ever listing to other loudspeakers?? it's a beautiful speaker a icon but the sound is not very good.
It's to bad B&O didn't upgrade this speaker (a reel upgrade!!)

huh? Don't really get you are trying to say. Of course I have listened to other loudspeakers. I was talking about B&O's image not about a specific product per say. B&O's image is all about being cool and different, unlike many of the electronic manufacturers who constantly compete with each other. I dunno why you guys are reacting so strongly to the statement I just made. Ask one of the directors at B&O and ask about their branding strategy and I bet they will tell you that " instead of giving what other manufacturers are offering we are trying to provide an alternative more avant-garde approach to making electronics".

So giving the Beolab8000s a genuine upgrade will be sorta apologizing for its offbeat appeal.

Re: BeoLab 9 & sub-woofer

nmartin771 — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:00:59 GMT

http://www.bang-olufsen.com/Userfiles/File/Press/Lab-report_BeoLab9.pdf

Re: BeoLab 9 & sub-woofer

BEOKNOW — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:22:07 GMT

Fact - B&O make fantastic speakers that look great and sound superb, and the really rare thing for B&O is that they are actually exceptional good value for money!

Lab8000 as with all B&O speakers, with the exception of Lab5, that actually sound worse with Lab2, sound better with the sub, if you like bass, particularly in a surround set up.

Lab9s in my opinion sound better with the Lab2, but like all things, it comes down to personal preference - I at least have the opportunity of hearing them all every day at work - and would of course always recommend a Lab2 with all combinations except lab5...

Re: BeoLab 9 & sub-woofer

koning — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:04:41 GMT

Dave it's time for you to grow up!!

Have you ever listen to other loudspeakers??The beolab 8000 is a beautiful loudspeaker a icon but the sound is not very good.

It's to bad B&O didn't upgrade this speaker (a reel upgrade!!)

Re: BeoLab 9 & sub-woofer

wonderfulelectric — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:44:25 GMT

Puncher:
wonderfulelectric:
Dave:

Yes, what you are writing isn't true, ding ding ding!
Well my problem is that i'm too lazy to type my opinion. ∆omeone please jump in, i've seen this topic raised before, but i'm not very good at articulating...
The use of certain drivers was because implementing "better quality" drivers had no discernible benefit. In my knowledge it's important that the drivers match the constraints of the speaker cabinet. The distortion you are perceiving may be from the fact that speaker drivers, amplifiers, componets and X-overs are squeezed into the tiniest space... and there are serious serious limitations. "It is the most beautiful speaker many say" and that is the balance between form and function
...... not 'image'

I am sorry to everyone for being OT but I'm disgruntled by remarks that unnecessarily verbal-bash B&O ("B&O is too into preserving its stylish 'I don't care about what others think about me' image"), and i feel obliged to say something.
So my question? > ...if this is how you view the company why oh why do you buy the products?
*i also apologise for being rather passionate here please don't take anything personally*
There are and already have been speakers out there smaller than the Beolab8000s that produce bigger sounds because of better drivers and better loudspeaker design. And they happen to be non-active/conventional designs BTW. http://www.mark-daniel.com/ http://www.everything-but-the-box.com/ http://www.haliaetus.com/hava/haliaetus.html

The mark-daniel web site has my virus scanner running into overdrive! I hope the speakers are better than the website.

Really? Sorry about that. Nothing bad happened whilst viewing it on my mac. Anyways the Mark-Daniel website is kinda bad, you can read their reviews on www.6moons.com . Basically monitor speakers loaded with drivers that are coupled with giant NdFeb magnets and low crossover points.

Re: BeoLab 9 & sub-woofer

Puncher — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:29:34 GMT

wonderfulelectric:
Dave:

Yes, what you are writing isn't true, ding ding ding!
Well my problem is that i'm too lazy to type my opinion. ∆omeone please jump in, i've seen this topic raised before, but i'm not very good at articulating...
The use of certain drivers was because implementing "better quality" drivers had no discernible benefit. In my knowledge it's important that the drivers match the constraints of the speaker cabinet. The distortion you are perceiving may be from the fact that speaker drivers, amplifiers, componets and X-overs are squeezed into the tiniest space... and there are serious serious limitations. "It is the most beautiful speaker many say" and that is the balance between form and function
...... not 'image'

I am sorry to everyone for being OT but I'm disgruntled by remarks that unnecessarily verbal-bash B&O ("B&O is too into preserving its stylish 'I don't care about what others think about me' image"), and i feel obliged to say something.
So my question? > ...if this is how you view the company why oh why do you buy the products?
*i also apologise for being rather passionate here please don't take anything personally*
There are and already have been speakers out there smaller than the Beolab8000s that produce bigger sounds because of better drivers and better loudspeaker design. And they happen to be non-active/conventional designs BTW. http://www.mark-daniel.com/ http://www.everything-but-the-box.com/ http://www.haliaetus.com/hava/haliaetus.html

The mark-daniel web site has my virus scanner running into overdrive! I hope the speakers are better than the website.

Re: BeoLab 9 & sub-woofer

wonderfulelectric — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:04:07 GMT

Dave:
Yes, what you are writing isn't true, ding ding ding!
Well my problem is that i'm too lazy to type my opinion. ∆omeone please jump in, i've seen this topic raised before, but i'm not very good at articulating...
The use of certain drivers was because implementing "better quality" drivers had no discernible benefit. In my knowledge it's important that the drivers match the constraints of the speaker cabinet. The distortion you are perceiving may be from the fact that speaker drivers, amplifiers, componets and X-overs are squeezed into the tiniest space... and there are serious serious limitations. "It is the most beautiful speaker many say" and that is the balance between form and function
...... not 'image'

I am sorry to everyone for being OT but I'm disgruntled by remarks that unnecessarily verbal-bash B&O ("B&O is too into preserving its stylish 'I don't care about what others think about me' image"), and i feel obliged to say something.
So my question? > ...if this is how you view the company why oh why do you buy the products?
*i also apologise for being rather passionate here please don't take anything personally*

There are and already have been speakers out there smaller than the Beolab8000s that produce bigger sounds because of better drivers and better loudspeaker design. And they happen to be non-active/conventional designs BTW. http://www.mark-daniel.com/ http://www.everything-but-the-box.com/ http://www.haliaetus.com/hava/haliaetus.html

Re: BeoLab 9 & sub-woofer

wonderfulelectric — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:54:52 GMT

Dave:
wonderfulelectric:
koning:
The only upgrade is the color
maybe when they read this it opens their eyes....
Doubt so... B&O is too into preserving its stylish "I don't care about what others think about me" image. lol
Sorry, i don't accept that snide remark, and it isn't funny, it's silly! If this is how you feel then why do you buy their products?

Exactly because it has that " I don't care about what others thinks about me" cool attitude. Duh...

That's what style is all about. I was simply stating the fact that B&O has to preserve that image to survive. Jeez.... you have to learn to look beyond the obvious.

Re: BeoLab 9 & sub-woofer

Dave — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:06:31 GMT

Yes, what you are writing isn't true, ding ding ding!

Well my problem is that i'm too lazy to type my opinion. ∆omeone please jump in, i've seen this topic raised before, but i'm not very good at articulating...

The use of certain drivers was because implementing "better quality" drivers had no discernible benefit. In my knowledge it's important that the drivers match the constraints of the speaker cabinet. The distortion you are perceiving may be from the fact that speaker drivers, amplifiers, componets and X-overs are squeezed into the tiniest space... and there are serious serious limitations. "It is the most beautiful speaker many say" and that is the balance between form and function

...... not 'image'

I am sorry to everyone for being OT but I'm disgruntled by remarks that unnecessarily verbal-bash B&O ("B&O is too into preserving its stylish 'I don't care about what others think about me' image"), and i feel obliged to say something.

So my question? > ...if this is how you view the company why oh why do you buy the products?

*i also apologise for being rather passionate here please don't take anything personally*

Re: BeoLab 9 & sub-woofer

koning — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:26:14 GMT

Oke' you only like to hear positive things.

Do you think what we have writing isn't true?

What's your opinion,

Re: BeoLab 9 & sub-woofer

Dave — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 08:10:16 GMT

wonderfulelectric:
koning:
The only upgrade is the color
maybe when they read this it opens their eyes....
Doubt so... B&O is too into preserving its stylish "I don't care about what others think about me" image. lol

Sorry, i don't accept that snide remark, and it isn't funny, it's silly! If this is how you feel then why do you buy their products?

Re: BeoLab 9 & sub-woofer

Luigi — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:20:54 GMT

BL9 is other level. I don't know, but I think the BL9 doesn't need a BL2. It has a lot of power-bass, and it's very clean and defined.
I have BL8000, BL2 and BL3. I have compared both labs with and without BL2 and I prefer the BL8000. The BL3 is more clean, but the resonance of BL8000 is better. This feature results in a more natural sound.