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Re: HD Ready vs Full HD

moxxey — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:09:45 GMT

thavn:
I´ve done some research and there actually are quite a few HD broadcasts available, but I´m not sure how HD these broadcast are? Are they best watched in Full HD or HD-ready? I can´t find information on this anywhere...

HD broadcasts are not Full HD. They are either 720p or 1080i. Therefore you only really need a 720p screen to view HD TV.

Full HD is achieved through Blu-ray or 1080p PS3 games. You might be able to download the odd 1080p movie, but most likely these are 720p. The snag is that a 1080p download adds GBs to the size, yet offers only a negliable improvement in picture quality.

You should receive a better audio experience from Blu-ray than a HD TV programme or broadcast movie.

Re: HD Ready vs Full HD

thavn — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:28:53 GMT

I´ve done some research and there actually are quite a few HD broadcasts available, but I´m not sure how HD these broadcast are? Are they best watched in Full HD or HD-ready? I can´t find information on this anywhere...

Re: HD Ready vs Full HD

moxxey — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:29:43 GMT

jk1002:
>>What about it? If it has a full HD panel, then B&O have made a bad decision. A 32" LCD screen doesn't need full HD. <<
They have a 720P screen in the BV8, which I am enjoying a lot. I can even stream Internet TV and its somewhat watchable. DVD is stunning.

Same here. The only problem I have with my BV8 panel is that blacks are no way near as intense as the BV7-40 MKIII. I can almost compare them side-by-side and the BV8 blacks are more like very dark grey.

Re: HD Ready vs Full HD

jk1002 — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:19:48 GMT

>>What about it? If it has a full HD panel, then B&O have made a bad decision. A 32" LCD screen doesn't need full HD. <<

They have a 720P screen in the BV8, which I am enjoying a lot. I can even stream Internet TV and its somewhat watchable. DVD is stunning.

I would think there is a chance that the BV7 32 gets a 720P screen as well, simply because it won't have the luxury of the BS3 in the back.

I prefer the look of the 32" over the 40" as well for reasons giving here, I would not buy though the 32" right now. Its just too far behind when it comes to connections but I am thinking its well worth to wait until summer or so for the updated model.

Re: HD Ready vs Full HD

moxxey — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:17:18 GMT

koning:
Samsung has a new backlighting,does this means that the new beovisions also get this new backlighting.

AFAIK B&O TVs have their own backlighting? ie. this is an area where B&O are supposed to excel.

Re: HD Ready vs Full HD

koning — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:54:59 GMT

Samsung has a new backlighting,does this means that the new beovisions also get this new backlighting.

Re: HD Ready vs Full HD

Dave — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:54:38 GMT

Ouch! *sucks on hand that was bitten* [&]

Re: HD Ready vs Full HD

MGBGTV8 — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:53:36 GMT

theres a lot made of static resolution 1080 p or 720 p how about pioneers campaign to promote motion resolution

also the high ambient light of lcd what happens on a bv7 or 8 when you watch a film and turn the lights down low do you get a lot of light shinig thru the screen

Re: HD Ready vs Full HD

moxxey — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:48:58 GMT

koning:
What about the bv7-32 MKIV?!

What about it? If it has a full HD panel, then B&O have made a bad decision. A 32" LCD screen doesn't need full HD.

Re: HD Ready vs Full HD

moxxey — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:47:39 GMT

Dave:
Moxxey, i'm curious. Please explain to us why you are concerned about the Hz of a LCD screen. A 100Hz CRT screen vs a 50Hz is the difference in flicker and picture sharpness.

Did I say I was concerned? No, I was just pointing out the (guessed) differences between the current MKIII and the MKIV and that I'm planning on upgrading, regardless.

However, panning of live football games is almost certainly improved on a 100Hz panel. I watch a lot of football. Even if it's 5% better, that's an improvement.

Re: HD Ready vs Full HD

koning — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:45:55 GMT

What about the bv7-32 MKIV?!

Re: HD Ready vs Full HD

Dave — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:39:13 GMT

moxxey:
... am already thinking of upgrading to the forthcoming BV7-40 MKIV. Should have an updated 100Hz panel, Blu-ray player and perhaps and updated BS3.

Moxxey, i'm curious. Please explain to us why you are concerned about the Hz of a LCD screen. A 100Hz CRT screen vs a 50Hz is the difference in flicker and picture sharpness.

The difference between a 100Hz panel and 50Hz panel are pretty much insignificant, so who has been telling you you need to have 100Hz in an LCD?

Re: HD Ready vs Full HD

moxxey — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:00:55 GMT

thavn:
Obviously the Full HD panel is better when you play a BD, but what about a normal DVD on a 1080p panel vs a 720p tv? Will it look better on the 720 panel because of poor upscaling on the 1080 panel?
Am I correct if I presume that the BV7-32 has no real improvement in Picture Quality over my old Avant DVD 100 hz. What about HD broadcasts?

A normal standard definition DVD will look better on the 720p panel. It's fine on a 1080p panel, too, but just not stunning. Blu-ray offers a more vibrant and colour-rich experience. However, you only really notice this when you compare the Blu-ray to the SD DVD.

I wouldn't buy a 1080p screen thinking you're 'future proofing' (I hate this expression) your future TV experience. I own a BV7-40 MKIII, bought December 2007, and am already thinking of upgrading to the forthcoming BV7-40 MKIV. Should have an updated 100Hz panel, Blu-ray player and perhaps and updated BS3.

BV7-32 is most likely a downgrade in PQ compared to your Avant! HD looks good on the BV7-32 and will probably be equal to your Avant. Maybe.

If I was in your situation, I'd hold on to the Avant and consider the new BV7-40 MKIV due later this year (Summer?).

Re: HD Ready vs Full HD

thavn — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:38:54 GMT

Thanks for your replies.

Obviously the Full HD panel is better when you play a BD, but what about a normal DVD on a 1080p panel vs a 720p tv? Will it look better on the 720 panel because of poor upscaling on the 1080 panel?

I want to buy a TV that will last a few years, and I guess HD broadcasts will be more common in Norway in the years to come. I agree with the size argument of the BV7-32, I think it looks better than the 40 inch version, but I continue to talk myself into keeping my Avant, which I am very happy with.

Am I correct if I presume that the BV7-32 has no real improvement in Picture Quality over my old Avant DVD 100 hz. What about HD broadcasts?

I'm sorry about all these questions, but this is kind of confusing.

Re: HD Ready vs Full HD

soundproof — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:55:22 GMT

Absolutely. Not in a second's doubt that true Blu ray is better than SD. My point was that SD broadcasts upscale badly. True Full-HD or HD-Ready looks wonderful, even on a 40" screen!