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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: is it an age thing</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/165132.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:54:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:165132</guid><dc:creator>BeoSoto</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/165132.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=165132</wfw:commentRss><description>YES, show us some pictures! Remember paullumsden1, when something sounds too good to be true, it usually is not true... Plus, all 17 year olds whether male or female, have to begin working at some point, just like ALL of us! Give him / her a break, or simply try and help. Do you remember when you were 17?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: is it an age thing</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/165103.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:24:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:165103</guid><dc:creator>BeoBoyLit</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/165103.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=165103</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;A14BEO:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;I echo what others have already said - if you&amp;#39;re buying ANYTHING (not just B&amp;amp;O), make sure it&amp;#39;s in the condition described before handing over your cash! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;pound;750 for a pair of nearly new BeoLab 6000 and a brand new Serenata sounds like a fantastic deal to me - so if the speakers have a few small marks I&amp;#39;d just grin and bear it. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fair enough - your dealer may have misdescribed them, and you may want to take the matter up with them first - but they were ex-demo, which doesn&amp;#39;t always mean that they are untouched - these are the speakers which customers will have looked at, handled and listened to for a year or so before you bought them! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Maybe post some photos of the damage for us all to see, as I think some people are struggling to understand your angst with the persons involved - if it&amp;#39;s &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; bad, let&amp;#39;s see!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hello Matt , I totally agree with your &amp;quot;anti-hysteric&amp;quot; and pragmatic position (same as Lee one)&amp;nbsp; &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/21.gif" alt="Yes -  thumbs up" /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;After the 8 Paullumsden1&amp;#39;s distress post (not always easy to translate) I&amp;#39;m now looking forward to carefully look at those &amp;quot;damages&amp;quot; pictures &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/35.gif" alt="Hmm" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: is it an age thing</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/165064.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:38:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:165064</guid><dc:creator>V13WNG</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/165064.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=165064</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I echo what others have already said - if you&amp;#39;re buying ANYTHING (not just B&amp;amp;O), make sure it&amp;#39;s in the condition described before handing over your cash! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;pound;750 for a pair of nearly new BeoLab 6000 and a brand new Serenata sounds like a fantastic deal to me - so if the speakers have a few small marks I&amp;#39;d just grin and bear it. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fair enough - your dealer may have misdescribed them, and you may want to take the matter up with them first - but they were ex-demo, which doesn&amp;#39;t always mean that they are untouched - these are the speakers which customers will have looked at, handled and listened to for a year or so before you bought them! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Maybe post some photos of the damage for us all to see, as I think some people are struggling to understand your angst with the persons involved - if it&amp;#39;s &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; bad, let&amp;#39;s see!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: is it an age thing</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/165020.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:42:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:165020</guid><dc:creator>Pault1965</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/165020.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=165020</wfw:commentRss><description>It would appear soooooooooooo &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/14.gif" alt="Devil" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: is it an age thing</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/165018.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:32:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:165018</guid><dc:creator>TripEnglish</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/165018.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=165018</wfw:commentRss><description>Lee, is there a full moon over the UK this evening?&amp;nbsp;&lt;img border="0" height="19" src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/05.gif" width="19" /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: is it an age thing</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/165001.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:03:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:165001</guid><dc:creator>9 LEE</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/165001.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=165001</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Not entirely sure where this thread is going...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You don&amp;#39;t want to take them back or do anything about it, but you&amp;#39;re desperately disappointed because your &amp;pound;700 speakers were scratched and the 17 year old assistant didn&amp;#39;t take it upon himself to override the salesman or sales manager and refuse to sell you them?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Am i missing the point?&amp;nbsp; If so, please.. help me understand. As linder quite rightly said, take them back for a refund!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lee&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: is it an age thing</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164999.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:47:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:164999</guid><dc:creator>paullumsden1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164999.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=164999</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;i am getting old and my pound notes are getting smaller&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: is it an age thing</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164997.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:40:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:164997</guid><dc:creator>paullumsden1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164997.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=164997</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Are the dealers so poor?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: is it an age thing</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164993.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:24:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:164993</guid><dc:creator>paullumsden1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164993.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=164993</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I agree ,but from b&amp;amp;o, there sould be no refu??nds, &amp;nbsp;the products they produce the best in the world, or as money can buy, with the best srevice, service NO&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why not take a grip on their sales abrode? ie uk etc. does them no favours(some 17 yr old does not give a damn in a sales shop) WHYll because i do not know?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: is it an age thing</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164986.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:10:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:164986</guid><dc:creator>linder</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164986.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=164986</wfw:commentRss><description>I would return everything for a refund. &amp;nbsp;If you are unhappy now, you will always be unhappy with these purchases.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: is it an age thing</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164985.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:07:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:164985</guid><dc:creator>paullumsden1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164985.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=164985</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Do you live at home with your parents ? why should that make a difference to you work ethic, to your client?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Please tell.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Paul&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: is it an age thing</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164977.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:48:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:164977</guid><dc:creator>paullumsden1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164977.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=164977</wfw:commentRss><description>You are right ,at &amp;pound;700 they were not,TRASHED but at &amp;pound; 750 they were not what i expected from b&amp;amp;o, they said ex demo , asked all the usual questions ,any scratches, dints etc. No perfect./ NO NO NO they were not A bargin NO NO NO lets face its, not B&amp;amp;O, SALES .SALES STAFF, THATS WHAT WILL SINK B&amp;amp;OT&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: is it an age thing</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164972.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:34:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:164972</guid><dc:creator>paullumsden1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164972.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=164972</wfw:commentRss><description>No it will not be repeat buisness&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: is it an age thing</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164971.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:33:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:164971</guid><dc:creator>9 LEE</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164971.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=164971</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m not one to defend poor dealers if this is the case, and sorry to put a damper on your lament, but did you not actually check the speakers before you bought them? &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/07.gif" alt="Unsure" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;By the look of it, they were &amp;pound;300 off list and with a &amp;pound;950 Serenata thrown in it strikes me as a bit of a bargain to be honest! - but i could be wrong. I assume that the speakers were absolutely trashed beyond economical repair?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lee&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/08.gif" alt="Indifferent" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: is it an age thing</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164969.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:27:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:164969</guid><dc:creator>paullumsden1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/164969.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=164969</wfw:commentRss><description>I dissagree if i do&amp;nbsp;work, or install, &amp;nbsp;for a client it is 100% right the client pays for that/ it is not the point ,b&amp;amp;o, tany pc world ,you pay for what you expect, in b&amp;amp;o a lot*&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>