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Re: The Oliver Wallington Interview

tournedos — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:40:34 GMT

Jandyt:
Not a problem for me, as I'm amphibious.

Does that mean you can swim with both hands?

Re: The Oliver Wallington Interview

Jandyt — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:32:39 GMT

Not a problem for me, as I'm amphibious.

Re: The Oliver Wallington Interview

Puncher — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:58:24 GMT

Flappo The Grate:
did you know , michelangelo and leonardo were BOTH left handed !?

As were Hendrix and McCartney, in fact most really talented folk are!

Oh, by the way, I'm a leftie too

Re: The Oliver Wallington Interview

KingOfSnake — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:33:22 GMT

Flappo The Grate:
did you know , michelangelo and leonardo were BOTH left handed !?

Well there are another two people who would have been alienated by this leftist outrage. I mean, they make left-hand drive cars for left-handers, why not a Beosound 5?

Re: The Oliver Wallington Interview

Flappo The Grate — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:27:17 GMT

did you know , michelangelo and leonardo were BOTH left handed !?

Re: The Oliver Wallington Interview

Peter — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:34:12 GMT

He is a fairly recent Kiwi I believe!

I too am left handed - or at least I was. I am of an age where if you were catholic, writing with one's left hand was seen as the work of the Devil and I was made to change. My writing was not improved by this and I was hence forced to enter the medical profession!

Still bat left handed and fight south paw !

Re: The Oliver Wallington Interview

joeyboygolf — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:50:51 GMT

benjnz:

LMAO oi stop putting is left handers in the same basket as those living in Ely!
Needless to say I'm a right hander, but boy the things people ni Cambridge could tell you about people who live in Ely - need I say more - hehehe
You know the strange thins about this piece of kit is the more I hear about it and the more I hear the producers wax lyrical about it, the more I actually warm towards it - this worries me - epspecially as at the moment I don't have +/- $15,000 NZD that it'sll probably cost, at a min.
Oh well, that'll be mroe saving and scrimping for a few years

Am I missing something here?

I'm left handed, have been all my life. I write with my left hand, use a spoon with my left hand and even use a remote with my left hand.

And.......I happen to live in Ely. So...............what's your point?

And just what do they say in Cambridge. I don't know but you obviously do and you live in New Zealand?????

Help me out here will you, I'm getting a persecution complex.

Re: The Oliver Wallington Interview

benjnz — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:36:39 GMT

LMAO oi stop putting is left handers in the same basket as those living in Ely!

Needless to say I'm a right hander, but boy the things people ni Cambridge could tell you about people who live in Ely - need I say more - hehehe

You know the strange thins about this piece of kit is the more I hear about it and the more I hear the producers wax lyrical about it, the more I actually warm towards it - this worries me - epspecially as at the moment I don't have +/- $15,000 NZD that it'sll probably cost, at a min.

Oh well, that'll be mroe saving and scrimping for a few years

Re: The Oliver Wallington Interview

Puncher — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 10:25:35 GMT

Peter :
I think the analogy with an MCP or Beolink 7000 is a good one. In today's money, a Beolink 7000 would cost £960. Now the Beomedia, on which the BM5 is heavily based, is £1500. I think we would agree that the BS5 is a bit more sophisticated than the Beolink 7000 (possibly not in relation to what was available on the market mind you!) so maybe £1500 for the BS5. I believe the combined price of the two is £3500 (please correct me if I am wrong here!) so that means you are paying £500 more for the Beomaster over the Beomedia for a little more disc space (very cheap) and some more plugs. We are losing the portability of the Beolink 7000 of course as well.

Peter - as generous as always I, on the other hand, would be a good bit more agressive with my cost estimates!

I wish you did the product costing at my place of work - my life would be so much easier

Re: The Oliver Wallington Interview

Peter — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 10:09:39 GMT

I think the analogy with an MCP or Beolink 7000 is a good one. In today's money, a Beolink 7000 would cost £960. Now the Beomedia, on which the BM5 is heavily based, is £1500. I think we would agree that the BS5 is a bit more sophisticated than the Beolink 7000 (possibly not in relation to what was available on the market mind you!) so maybe £1500 for the BS5. I believe the combined price of the two is £3500 (please correct me if I am wrong here!) so that means you are paying £500 more for the Beomaster over the Beomedia for a little more disc space (very cheap) and some more plugs. We are losing the portability of the Beolink 7000 of course as well.

Re: The Oliver Wallington Interview

Puncher — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:51:32 GMT

I've said on other threads in this forum that I consider the BS5 to be a "modern day" MCP. If you think of it in that light it almost works, however it is unforgivable that it isn't wireless (and therefore not a "proper" MCP). I'm not convinced by the "power requirement" arguement - a modern laptop can run a full working day on battery power - returning the BS5/MCP to a charging station when not in use isn't a hardship.

The major problem is that when you do think of it as "only" an MCP then then price looks silly and the design, materials etc. argument becomes very difficult to justify.

Re: The Oliver Wallington Interview

Puncher — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:44:13 GMT

Peter :
Excellent interview - we need to get him with a few bottles of wine some time clearly! Very interesting though and I think he made a case for the BS5 very well. We are back to less is more and design and materials being key. This I like as long as the design and materials really do pop my cork. Useless features are just that - useless. My DVD-R has millions and I need the manual to work it. No B&O product should need more than two minutes to get the hang of, and the BS5 does seem to be pretty logical.

I am quite willing to share a "glass or two" with him and then get him to spill his innermost secrets

Re: The Oliver Wallington Interview

Dave — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:45:40 GMT

I really appreciate what was discussed in this interview thanks so much for bringing that to us! I really respect B&O when i read things like this, the idea behind the procucts is always consistent, they are surefooted with their ideas, and yes this may appear to be a disadvantage as they are slow to pick up the latest technology...

but he hit the nail on the head regarding what we consider old technology, in the realistic effects this has on the overall product, use, and ownership.

I love B&o! I'm not like most 20 year olds, i can see past the fact on sheet and don't feel the need to have the latest technology, I JUST WANT TO HAVE WHAT WORKS BEST FOR ME in everyday use! :)

At the same time i don't feel the need to own a Beosound 5... i'm happy with what i've got... but hell i do WANT a beosound 5! haha

Re: The Oliver Wallington Interview

Peter — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:16:36 GMT

The advantage of digital music is that it is all accessible easily. I can select any track or album I want anywhere in my Beolinked house. I do not have to go and get the CD or LP out. I also have a constantly running back up of all files and have the collection burnt to DVD as well (well the classical bit anyway!). The future of music is digital whether we dinosaurs like it or not.

Now do I think the BS5 is it? No. Unfortunately I think this is a model from the previous era of management and therefore cannot be used to judge what is to come. I struggle really to see where it will fit in my music system - I have a BC2 which plays the radio - FM, AM and DAB - as well as both CD and DVDs and I have a Beoport that allows me to play my digital music through the same system. I get a decent display on my BC2 but also two way remote anywhere via my iPod. Having the BS5 is simply like having another computer in the room - which I can also do if I want but of course my laptop can control my music without wires and from anywhere in the house. The BS5 is static and actually quite limited as far as placement options are concerned.

I can see a place for it, and I do like the interview; but I don't think I will be troubling the scorers on this one.

Re: The Oliver Wallington Interview

KingOfSnake — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:40:38 GMT

joeyboygolf:

I am about as underwhelmed by this gentleman as I am by his product.
I am also left handed so........

lol, Get this man a drink!

Where I grew up a 'left-hander' was code for 'bats for the team in pink' - a case of crossed wires I feel, or maybe code to appeal to other 'left-handers' on Beoworld.

Anyway Mr Golf I thoroughly agree, this flash tat doesn't cut it for me or excite me in any way, it seems like five-year old technology with a lovely - albeit exhorbitantly priced - interface. Any other manufacturer offers much the same at a fraction of the price with video storage as well. What's all this stuff about an audio-based product? B&O may have had a case, IMHO, if it had video storage and a DVD/CD drive but give me a Beosound 9000, Beolab 2 and pair of Beolab 3's anyday. Am not sure this is going to set the market alight. I was wrong once before though.