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Re: Upgrade a Beosound 9000 with new SW

Keith Saunders — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:34:53 GMT

The issue of what is involved in updating the Beosound 9000 software to support N.MUSIC and N.RADIO has come up several times on this forum and for this reason I have created a Beoworld information page on the subject which can be viewed HERE

There is detailed instructions along with pictures to help members who feel able to perform this upgrade.

Please ensure you use all neccessary anti-static protection when performing any work on any electronic equipment.

Re: Upgrade a Beosound 9000 with new SW

stotty1111 — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:50:46 GMT

I wish!

Re: Upgrade a Beosound 9000 with new SW

joeyboygolf — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:38:06 GMT

So there's still a spark between you then Tony!!

Re: Upgrade a Beosound 9000 with new SW

stotty1111 — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:06:33 GMT

swalut all

think i'm with graham here(joey etc) - i have built and used many differing modules for r/c equipmeny boat etc - have never had static damage probs - however i may one of the lucky ones without a high static body charge - my good woman has terrible probs of static with our car - doesn't affect me - maybe a case of no sense no feeling!

tony s

Re: Upgrade a Beosound 9000 with new SW

koning — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:44:42 GMT

What joeyboygolf said was nothing wrong with it.

Even a child knows the risk when you play with electricity!!!!

Re: Upgrade a Beosound 9000 with new SW

joeyboygolf — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:21:45 GMT

9 LEE:
joeyboygolf:

The premise that I work on is that I'm doing the job on the cheap so I'll take the chance that if everything is at the same potential (but possibly not zero) then there should be no problem.
Not sure that we should be advising people to 'have a go' or 'take a chance'... You may indeed have done it hundreds of times, but imagine the disappointment if BeoWorld encourages a member to do a DIY job and then cause hundreds of pounds worth of damage to their unit.
Removing a chip with a screwdriver can break the socket if you're not very careful - and as mentioned, static failures in todays electronics are quite high.. My own engineer (B&O trained with 20 yrs experience solely in B&O) has reported DIY jobs working at first then failing at a later date due to damage caused through cack-handed DIY work or poor earthing during repairs.
Yes, you can do things yourself - but i would be cautious in recommending this, especially being a moderator and well respected. All cases like this should carry more caveats than a Russian Roulette tournament.
Lee

This is an enthusiasts site not a commercial operation as we are contionually being reminded. If we were all working for B&O (maybe we are!!!) then I would be more considered.

I was simply attempting to help a fellow enthusiast. If that was wrong then I hold my hands up high.

"I done it guv" and I'm prepared to fall on my sword.

Please remove my moderator/technical advisor status.

I will retire to the "back benches" where I can hopefully still contribute.

Watch out Peter, you might want to sharpen your moderators pencil again just like the old days!!

Re: Upgrade a Beosound 9000 with new SW

Puncher — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:51:07 GMT

Taking proper antistatic precautions isn't expensive (see HERE for suitable earthing points, wrist straps and cords etc.). If you do this sort of thing regularly then it is a very worthwhile investment.

The trouble is that you can do without and seemingly get away with it - however the damage may have been done and the failure will happen at some time in the future.

Theres a decent pdf that explains all from Texas Instruments here but is slightly to large to attach to this post.

Re: Upgrade a Beosound 9000 with new SW

Peter — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:34:40 GMT

I agree. I am sure Graham has managed just as he states but I would always advise the correct tool for the job and if you are not sure, get someone who is. I think 'having a go' with something worthless is always an option, but not with a valuable piece of B&O.

Re: Upgrade a Beosound 9000 with new SW

9 LEE — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:26:05 GMT

joeyboygolf:

The premise that I work on is that I'm doing the job on the cheap so I'll take the chance that if everything is at the same potential (but possibly not zero) then there should be no problem.

Not sure that we should be advising people to 'have a go' or 'take a chance'... You may indeed have done it hundreds of times, but imagine the disappointment if BeoWorld encourages a member to do a DIY job and then cause hundreds of pounds worth of damage to their unit.

Removing a chip with a screwdriver can break the socket if you're not very careful - and as mentioned, static failures in todays electronics are quite high.. My own engineer (B&O trained with 20 yrs experience solely in B&O) has reported DIY jobs working at first then failing at a later date due to damage caused through cack-handed DIY work or poor earthing during repairs.

Yes, you can do things yourself - but i would be cautious in recommending this, especially being a moderator and well respected. All cases like this should carry more caveats than a Russian Roulette tournament.

Lee

Re: Upgrade a Beosound 9000 with new SW

joeyboygolf — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:58:40 GMT

seanklemis:
joeyboygolf:

Unless you wear frilly nylon knickers you can earth yourself periodicaly by touching the chassis of the device.
im affriad i work with anti-static and the correct way woudl be to touch the chassis if indded it were plugged in and the earth connection to the mains outlet was connected otherwise they static has no where to discharge to

Actually that won't help either as a two core cable is used so the earth pin is not connected. In fact the earth pin may even be plastic!!!

I am sure that in theory you are correct Sean but if we all stuck to theory then nothing would ever get done unless you pay £60 an hour for a fully kitted out electronics workshop to do the job!

The premise that I work on is that I'm doing the job on the cheap so I'll take the chance that if everything is at the same potential (but possibly not zero) then there should be no problem.

This premise has worked for me during many hundreds of jobs and I'll take my chances and save the money. I suppose that I should buy a wrist strap and I will probably curse when I zap my first component but hey ho!

Re: Uppgrade a Beosound 9000 with new SW

augs — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:33:21 GMT

Great! Thanks a lot for this "cheap" information

Re: Uppgrade a Beosound 9000 with new SW

Keith Saunders — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:21:55 GMT

The upgrade kit is no more than £15

Re: Uppgrade a Beosound 9000 with new SW

augs — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:59:47 GMT

So the part number of the chip is 8344087. Does anyone know the price of it?

Re: Uppgrade a Beosound 9000 with new SW

Seanie_230 — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:21:47 GMT

joeyboygolf:

Unless you wear frilly nylon knickers you can earth yourself periodicaly by touching the chassis of the device.

im affriad i work with anti-static and the correct way woudl be to touch the chassis if indded it were plugged in and the earth connection to the mains outlet was connected otherwise they static has no where to discharge to

Re: Uppgrade a Beosound 9000 with new SW

beoaus — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:19:28 GMT

I'm glad someone has cleared this up. I have an old and unbelieveable $xxx quote for the upgrade which was justified by what I posted. It stopped me from moving to N.MUSIC. Worth re-investigating now.

Thanks...