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If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Who will be the next David Lewis?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148583.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:00:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:148583</guid><dc:creator>linder</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148583.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=148583</wfw:commentRss><description>Maybe with the economy slowing down, Jonathan Ive may need the extra work &amp;nbsp;.&lt;img border="0" height="19" src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/02.gif" width="19" /&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="19" src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/03.gif" width="19" /&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="19" src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/36.gif" width="19" /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Who will be the next David Lewis?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148527.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:47:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:148527</guid><dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148527.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=148527</wfw:commentRss><description>wow. That&amp;#39;s pretty awe striking &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Who will be the next David Lewis?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148514.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:09:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:148514</guid><dc:creator>soundproof</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148514.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=148514</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I agree, the Welt is spectacular. What&amp;#39;s amazing about the Leipzig factory is that the cars under assembly are moving through the administration area with &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;no&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; sound. You can walk about, converse and work without sensing that the moving line is a disturbance. Anyone wanting an impression of BMW quality can just be placed on the mezzanine there - no words will be necessary, excellence demonstrated. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hadid&amp;#39;s goal was to unite management and production, creating a cohesive union (pun intended), and she said that the building would become part of corporate communication for the brand.&lt;br /&gt;Which is also what The Farm does in Struer ... it&amp;#39;s quite a thing to be driving in from the airport and suddenly see that building out on the field, at the end of the factory-units.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Who will be the next David Lewis?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148506.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:28:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:148506</guid><dc:creator>mobeyone</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148506.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=148506</wfw:commentRss><description>Those photos are simply stunning, amazing building.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Who will be the next David Lewis?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148493.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 03:20:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:148493</guid><dc:creator>Ignace</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148493.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=148493</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Yes ! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I love it too !&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&amp;acute;m looking forward to visit BMW Welt anytime soon.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Have a look at this guy&amp;acute;s &lt;a href="http://shows.autospies.com/gallery/2009-BMW-3-Series-97/" target="_blank"&gt;visit to BMW welt&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;He went to pick up his new 335d .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif" alt="Smile" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img height="422" src="http://shows.autospies.com/gallery/auto-show-photos.asp?imageId=68009&amp;amp;galleryId=97" width="600" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Who will be the next David Lewis?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148489.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 03:05:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:148489</guid><dc:creator>Beobird</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148489.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=148489</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The BMW Welt from Coop Himmelblau is more genius and I really love that building &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/19.gif" alt="Party!!!" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.bmw-welt.com/_shared/de/all_about/building/architecture/_img/architecture_overview.jpg" border="0" /&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.inhabitat.com/wp-content/uploads/bmwweltbuilding34.jpg" border="0" /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.inhabitat.com/wp-content/uploads/bmw_17.jpg" border="0" /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://h1.ripway.com/fatalfelix/bmw6.jpg" border="0" /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://h1.ripway.com/fatalfelix/bmw9.jpg" border="0" /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://h1.ripway.com/fatalfelix/bmw11.jpg" border="0" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Who will be the next David Lewis?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148469.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 02:22:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:148469</guid><dc:creator>soundproof</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148469.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=148469</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Zaha Hadid&amp;#39;s work on the Leipzig BMW-plant is stunning - including the principle of having the suits be in the middle of the production and assembly line.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img height="252" src="http://www.arcspace.com/architects/hadid/bmw_central/12bmw.jpg" width="380" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.arcspace.com/architects/hadid/bmw_central/bmw_central.html"&gt;http://www.arcspace.com/architects/hadid/bmw_central/bmw_central.html &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Who will be the next David Lewis?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148464.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:40:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:148464</guid><dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148464.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=148464</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Alex:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Dave:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Alex:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Steffen Schmelling = Beosound 6 , no thanks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;there were insane budget and design constraints with that project&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Thats no excuse, the ipod mini &amp;amp; co are also very low budget products. If its cost 150 $ in the apple shop ts manufactuerd and produced for 60 $&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well then why don&amp;#39;t you jump in there and show what B&amp;amp;o are doing wrong seems you know what&amp;#39;s best, news flash, B&amp;amp;o and apple are different companies with different values. Yes BS6 = bad product for the company, most certainly is not fair to pigeon hole the designer, unless you know exactly what you are talking about.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;On the note of Jensen, his designs of late have all appeared to retain that (very chic but very Dated) 70&amp;#39;s/ 80&amp;#39;s design... B&amp;amp;o isn&amp;#39;t going to be taking a step backwards on the grand scheme of things i don&amp;#39;t think.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Who will be the next David Lewis?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148457.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:13:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:148457</guid><dc:creator>nmartin771</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148457.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=148457</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe Patricia Urquiola ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3 class="r"&gt;&lt;a class="l" href="http://www.patriciaurquiola.com/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Who will be the next David Lewis?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148428.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:10:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:148428</guid><dc:creator>linder</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148428.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=148428</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;mobeyone:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I do like Zahas work, actually have &lt;a href="http://www.lumens.com/lumens/assets/product_images/PAAAIAJFIIKCMHDI.jpg"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; which is a good reflection of her work but I think she would struggle to translate her designs to B&amp;amp;O...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I absolutely agree. &amp;nbsp;I was able to buy one of the vases about a year ago and think it is very cool. &amp;nbsp;However I have never put any flowers in it. &amp;nbsp;I think her architectural designs are amazing. I also like Santiago Calatrava.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Maybe Zaha could do an interesting remote.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Who will be the next David Lewis?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148424.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:56:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:148424</guid><dc:creator>mobeyone</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148424.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=148424</wfw:commentRss><description>I do like Zahas work, actually have &lt;a href="http://www.lumens.com/lumens/assets/product_images/PAAAIAJFIIKCMHDI.jpg"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; which is a good reflection of her work but I think she would struggle to translate her designs to B&amp;amp;O...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Who will be the next David Lewis?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148422.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:37:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:148422</guid><dc:creator>Beobird</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148422.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=148422</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Actually I don&amp;#39;t care who will be the next designer. I only care about the products. And I don&amp;#39;t wan&amp;#39;t a designer that loves flashy and trendy colours. B&amp;amp;O should be black, white or alumium and nothing else &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif" alt="Smile" /&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Zaha Hadid has great designs for buildings, but I don&amp;#39;t think she matches B&amp;amp;O. Her designs are too &amp;quot;spacy&amp;quot;. In my eyes B&amp;amp;O has to be elegant, timeless and elegant. When timeless and elegancy don&amp;#39;t match, products like the Beolab 9 will be born.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;For example, the 9&amp;#39;s will match Zaha&amp;#39;s kitchen perfect&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://purecontemporary.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/zaha_hadid_island_dupont_corian.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;It looks timeless, but I don&amp;#39;t like it for the reason that it&amp;#39;s not elegant. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Who will be the next David Lewis?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148258.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:54:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:148258</guid><dc:creator>beocool</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148258.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=148258</wfw:commentRss><description>I agree with Alex that the design is based around the function. As for Jacob Jensen: his work in the past for B&amp;amp;O is really superb and an example of what design can mean for a company and a product. But&amp;nbsp;apart from a few things I have not been impressed with the work of his studio lately...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Who will be the next David Lewis?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148254.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:47:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:148254</guid><dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148254.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=148254</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Beobird:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Give me Jacob Jensen back &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/04.gif" alt="Stick out tongue" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;No thanks! He belongs to the past, not the future.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Who will be the next David Lewis?</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148245.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:39:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:148245</guid><dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/148245.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=148245</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Bear in mind that with audio products etc... the design is based around the function. Unless B&amp;O were planning on releasing products with the same function of 20 years ago, I doubt we'll see any of the older designs 're-worked'. As far as I can tell, they've only ever done this with the BeoLab 10, for the simple reason that it's intended to do exactly what the original AV9000 speaker did...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>