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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Forum</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/13.aspx</link><description>The main Meeting Place for BeoWorld members, and the place for General Questions, Answers and things to say! 
If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Beovision 4 and BeoSystem 3</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/90903.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:41:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:90903</guid><dc:creator>Foxtrott</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/90903.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=90903</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hello&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You can tell the different versions apart by the Type-Nr (4-digit number) and serial number. With both number (Type and Serial number) any dealer can tell you if the Beosystem 1/2 is already HD-ready or can be uprgraded.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cheers&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Foxtrott&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 4 and BeoSystem 3</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/90380.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:55:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:90380</guid><dc:creator>Hildebrand</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/90380.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=90380</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hello,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Not sure if this quick reply goes straight to you or the board.&amp;nbsp; Noted that &lt;a href="http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/members/meandmyshadow.aspx"&gt;meandmyshadow&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;mentioned getting a MKIII (HD version) Beosystem 1 or 2.&amp;nbsp; Might be a stupid question, but how can one tell the different versions of the Beosystem 1 or 2 apart to tell if it is a MKIII/HD version or not?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Thanks...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Hiller&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 4 and BeoSystem 3</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/24942.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 09:05:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:24942</guid><dc:creator>-multimedia Robert-</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/24942.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=24942</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Pushkin:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Just heard from my dealer that the BV4 will be revised in Sept to be 1080p and that the IR eye will be attached to the screen in much the same way as the BV9 is - that may indicate that it is worth waiting for these to be released as it will change (albeit) only slightly the profile for building in and you will get a more future-proof screen.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Pants123,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Pushkin answers your question for the fitting question you have. The IR eye is also the light sensor for adjusting the contrast etc.(VisionClear) Make sure for fitting that the predicted BV4 frame update,&amp;nbsp;with a sensor, the frame&amp;nbsp;must not be placed to deep in the wall. So the sensor receives the light condidtions in your room! (possibly like the BV9&amp;nbsp;right top design)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Regards, Robert&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 4 and BeoSystem 3</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/24876.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 04:33:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:24876</guid><dc:creator>Max</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/24876.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=24876</wfw:commentRss><description>Confirmed with my dealer yesterday that you can buy the BV4 separately from BeoSystem 3. I guess the case in point is whether you would want to run one without a BeoSystem.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 4 and BeoSystem 3</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/20170.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 04:31:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:20170</guid><dc:creator>Foxtrott</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/20170.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=20170</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;meandmyshadow:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;However in the case of BeoVision 4
they are advised that it should not be sold without BeoSystem 2 or
3,&amp;nbsp;this of course does not stop you asking the question.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The
reason why BV4 is not sold without BeoSystem 3 (or BeoSystem2) is that
the BeoSystem contains the tuner unit, picture processing system and
the peripheral connections (Scart, HDMI, etc....). Without the
BeoSystem the BV4 is just a plasma screen with cooling unit that will
not show any picture.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The informations I got from my dealer are
that the BV4-65 screen is already delivered in Full-HD version and that
the full HD-panel for BV4-50 and BV9 will be available soon.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;cheers&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Foxtrott&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 4 and BeoSystem 3</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/20140.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 02:30:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:20140</guid><dc:creator>meandmyshadow</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/20140.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=20140</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Dealers list all prices individually so that you can see what each component costs and also you have the choice to tailor your own system.&amp;nbsp; However in the case of BeoVision 4 they are advised that it should not be sold without BeoSystem 2 or 3,&amp;nbsp;this of course does not stop you asking the question.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think your best option is to have a look for a BeoSystem 1 or BeoSystem 2 MKIII (the HD version) which you can pick up quite resonably now - try Ebay.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 4 and BeoSystem 3</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/20094.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:48:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:20094</guid><dc:creator>Max</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/20094.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=20094</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I can&amp;#39;t see the reason that B&amp;amp;O wouldn&amp;#39;t sell the BV4-50 separately, I remember last year&amp;#39;s price list detailed them as separates with a footnote that a BeoSystem&amp;nbsp;was needed, maybe this is to save confusion. I suspect you can buy what you need, I&amp;#39;ve done the opposite, starting with a BeoSystem 3 and are looking to buy the screen sometime next year to see if&amp;nbsp;Full HD is all it&amp;#39;s cracked up to be. I don&amp;#39;t want to end up wth 2 BS3s, no matter how much I rave about it!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A &amp;pound;250 price difference could be down to the&amp;nbsp;DVB-T as as the initial quote was &amp;pound;250 less and it wasn&amp;#39;t until&amp;nbsp;I placed the order that the inc DVB-T (albeit at &amp;pound;250 extra) option was noted.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 4 and BeoSystem 3</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/19969.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:06:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:19969</guid><dc:creator>355f</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/19969.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=19969</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The D9 panel was supposed to be released in september last year in fact I did not get mine until April.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I doubt therefore that the screen will be available until spring. Especially as they have D9 panels in stock!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 4 and BeoSystem 3</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/19956.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 09:38:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:19956</guid><dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/19956.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=19956</wfw:commentRss><description>The 50&amp;quot; will be updated though timescale is not a pleasant word as far as B&amp;amp;O are concerned! Supposed to be the &amp;#39;Summer&amp;#39; but I would not expect it before Christmas!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 4 and BeoSystem 3</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/19924.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 07:12:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:19924</guid><dc:creator>WhiteSea</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/19924.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=19924</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;My dealer ( in the UK ) was unable to confirm when the BeoVision 4-50&amp;quot; would be available in full HD. B&amp;amp;O ( UK ) were unable to confirm any timescales to them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;How confident is your dealer of his information ? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 4 and BeoSystem 3</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/14889.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:44:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:14889</guid><dc:creator>Pushkin</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/14889.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=14889</wfw:commentRss><description>Just heard from my dealer that the BV4 will be revised in Sept to be 1080p and that the IR eye will be attached to the screen in much the same way as the BV9 is - that may indicate that it is worth waiting for these to be released as it will change (albeit) only slightly the profile for building in and you will get a more future-proof screen.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 4 and BeoSystem 3</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/14880.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:32:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:14880</guid><dc:creator>jk1002</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/14880.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=14880</wfw:commentRss><description>&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#333333;font-family:Lucida Grande;font-size:11.0224px;line-height:16px;"&gt;&amp;pound;11150 when Beoworld says they cost for the two components should be &amp;pound;10900&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#333333;font-family:Lucida Grande;font-size:11.0224px;line-height:16px;"&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#333333;font-family:Lucida Grande;font-size:11.0224px;line-height:16px;"&gt;It could be the additional module, in general the dealer sets the price so the offer you get can vary from store to store.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 4 and BeoSystem 3</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/14870.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:24:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:14870</guid><dc:creator>jk1002</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/14870.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=14870</wfw:commentRss><description>http://www.beotech.co.uk/beovision4.htm&amp;nbsp;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Here is the article. I know that in the US the BV4 is sold without BS but I can see this beeing different from country to country. The promo package that they sold in the US us gone it seems, can&amp;#39;t find it on the website anymore.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I would not buy a BV4 without BS, I would consider an old one though. If you buy new, the full HD panels should come somewhat soon.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Cheers&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class="khtml-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 4 and BeoSystem 3</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/14757.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 11:03:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:14757</guid><dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/14757.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=14757</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;pants123:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Morgan:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;I think that BV4 includes the BS3 in the price.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;The quote I have from the dealer lists the items separately so I assume they can be bought separately.&amp;nbsp; Maybe I am wrong?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also I have been quoted &amp;pound;11150 when Beoworld says they cost for the two components should be &amp;pound;10900.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Could it be the inclusion of the DVBT module that bumps up the price?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;You can buy the BS3 only (very good choice), but if you buy a BV4,&amp;nbsp;this cames with&amp;nbsp;the BS3.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Beovision 4 and BeoSystem 3</title><link>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/14754.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 10:51:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:14754</guid><dc:creator>jk1002</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/thread/14754.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archivedforum.beoworld.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=14754</wfw:commentRss><description>There was an article on beotech.org who to use a BV4 without beosystem. I personally would not do that though, I would look for use used beosystem 1 or 2. Also, the HD upgrade is pending, in the US they have a great promotion for the package, think 20% off to clear out the inventory before the full HD panels come. You might find a good deal in europe as well.

Cheers
JK&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>