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Re: Avant Purchase - some questions

joeyboygolf — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:09:12 GMT

gk31ax:
joeyboygolf:
gk31ax:
Dave:

The picture is unbelievable isn't it.

Hey i had the same issue and it was so very small, but as you said, I NOTICED it! hehe i ended up going into the service menu and adjusting the geometry to perfect the picture shape... this took DAYS and great caution. I also made sure that i wrote all of the values down before i did it.

Take utmost care if going down this avenue (and yes it can be scary)... but i did it and the result is pure satisfaction :D
Cheers Dave, but are there any instructions as to how to do this......Thanks Gary
Yes,instructions are in the service manual.
Does changing the geometry apply to all formats or can I select each one? My only issue is with Format 1

According to my service manual you need to adjust geometry for each format.

Re: Avant Purchase - some questions

Dave — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 00:02:05 GMT

~~IT APPLES TO THE ENTIRE SET.~~

Apologies, i'm mistaken!

Re: Avant Purchase - some questions

gk31ax — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:12:44 GMT

joeyboygolf:
gk31ax:
Dave:

The picture is unbelievable isn't it.

Hey i had the same issue and it was so very small, but as you said, I NOTICED it! hehe i ended up going into the service menu and adjusting the geometry to perfect the picture shape... this took DAYS and great caution. I also made sure that i wrote all of the values down before i did it.

Take utmost care if going down this avenue (and yes it can be scary)... but i did it and the result is pure satisfaction :D
Cheers Dave, but are there any instructions as to how to do this......Thanks Gary
Yes,instructions are in the service manual.

Does changing the geometry apply to all formats or can I select each one? My only issue is with Format 1

Re: Avant Purchase - some questions

david707 — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:00:05 GMT

It certainly seems that way although the aerial company said that "second location picture format was working before but now it does not" indicates a recent change. They insist it was after a software upgrade.

The situation is not satisfactory at all. For e.g another person wants to watch the same Sky channel in another room on a different format TV. It also presents difficulties as you say with B&O link and other remote extenders like the powermid which I use.

Re: Avant Purchase - some questions

ajames — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 06:47:34 GMT

The box as far as I know can only output one format at a time - if the first output is set to 16:9 and the second to 4:3 then 16:9 willbe selected when operated from the box itself or through the STBC, 4:3 will be selected when operated through the magic eye in the remote room. If you are controlling sky through a link system then it will be operated by the STB-C and hence goto 16:9.

If you have switched the box on from the link room then it will display 4:3 on all TV's similarly if someone then operates it from the main room then all the TV's will display 16:9.

Re: Avant Purchase - some questions

david707 — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:56:45 GMT

I read this on another forum. Is this having to use a remote eye only with recent software? Why would they do it this way? If the box can only output one format at any one time?

According to my B&O dealer, aerial contractor and from TV link who make the magic eyes for Sky, the RF2 should output 4:3 when selected in the menu and is nothing to do with remote control. Sky technical have not much clue but they too insist you should not need a TV link eye to achieve a different format on RF2.

Maybe Rupert Murdoch knows a fix.

Re: Avant Purchase - some questions

ajames — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 06:46:16 GMT

I had this problem a while back, if the RF feed and control for Sky in the other rooms is from the Avant then it will always be 16:9. The way the Sky box works is that the second feed when connected to a second TV and set to 4:3 will only change to 4:3 when their magic eye is connected so you have to operate it through a Sky remote and not a Beo4.

Hope this makes sense - I think a way round it is to connect the RF out from the Avant to the RF in on the sky box then connect a sky magic eye to the second rf out and place it close to the IR eye connected to the Avant, then connect your second room to the RF out of the Sky box and tune the link channell to that. I know I had it working once but got fed up and bought a second Avant instead for the link room.

Re: Avant Purchase - some questions

david707 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:16:42 GMT

No one else heard of the picture format problem? Maybe not all boxes are affected?

Re: Avant Purchase - some questions

joeyboygolf — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:13:20 GMT

gk31ax:
Dave:

The picture is unbelievable isn't it.

Hey i had the same issue and it was so very small, but as you said, I NOTICED it! hehe i ended up going into the service menu and adjusting the geometry to perfect the picture shape... this took DAYS and great caution. I also made sure that i wrote all of the values down before i did it.

Take utmost care if going down this avenue (and yes it can be scary)... but i did it and the result is pure satisfaction :D
Cheers Dave, but are there any instructions as to how to do this......Thanks Gary

Yes,instructions are in the service manual.

Re: Avant Purchase - some questions

gk31ax — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:47:46 GMT

Dave:
The picture is unbelievable isn't it.

Hey i had the same issue and it was so very small, but as you said, I NOTICED it! hehe i ended up going into the service menu and adjusting the geometry to perfect the picture shape... this took DAYS and great caution. I also made sure that i wrote all of the values down before i did it.

Take utmost care if going down this avenue (and yes it can be scary)... but i did it and the result is pure satisfaction :D

Cheers Dave, but are there any instructions as to how to do this......Thanks Gary

Re: Avant Purchase - some questions

david707 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:54:49 GMT

Regarding second location picture format: There is a known problem with this. It seems Sky's latest software upgrade has stopped it working (although it is still there in the picture settings menu). Calls to Sky are answered by people who either know nothing about it or pretend not to. I contacted a local aerial contractor and they are very well aware of the fault but said "Sky don't listen to them". I'm afraid the box will output only one format until Sky do something about it.

David.

Re: Avant Purchase - some questions

Dave — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:21:00 GMT

The picture is unbelievable isn't it.

Hey i had the same issue and it was so very small, but as you said, I NOTICED it! hehe i ended up going into the service menu and adjusting the geometry to perfect the picture shape... this took DAYS and great caution. I also made sure that i wrote all of the values down before i did it.

Take utmost care if going down this avenue (and yes it can be scary)... but i did it and the result is pure satisfaction :D

Re: Avant Purchase - some questions

gk31ax — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:00:17 GMT

will give that a go and report back

Re: Avant Purchase - some questions

Alex — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:21:29 GMT

Really?

I'd do as Britops suggests then, use the Avant's RF out instead of the Sky Box's.

Re: Avant Purchase - some questions

gk31ax — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:52:07 GMT

Alex, sadly, it makes no difference if I use the RF1 or RF2 out, I get the same result on 2nd picture location......