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Re: Beovision 3 or Avant

gk31ax — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:37:59 GMT

Can I add a projector to the following set up and control it using a BEO4 remote?

Avant 32 RF

BC2

BL8000

I'll add a BL2 and BL4 as rears later on.....

Thanks

Gary

Re: Beovision 3 or Avant

j0hnbarker — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:35:12 GMT

Yep - only Beolab 5000 system I've seen in the flesh was Andy's, and I was really surprised at how substantial the two units are. Unfortunately though, it only made me want one more!

Re: Beovision 3 or Avant

Peter — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:24:11 GMT

Very true! The 8000 has a huge transformer and the heat sinks must weigh a fair bit. Mine stays in the stand as moving it is no joke. The Beolab 5000 is similar in build quality - actually I would say better in some ways though is about half the weight - it is only 10kg!

Re: Beovision 3 or Avant

j0hnbarker — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:08:04 GMT

Peter :
You need a 4400! In my view, even nicer to listen to! I have fewer these days - 900, a couple of 5500s, 7000, 8000 and 4400. 4401 and Beolab 5000 to come soon! Lee has my 6000 quad - wonderful looking but not that great sounding. The late 6000 is similar to the 4400 in electronic design - how do you find it compares to the 8000?

The 80s 6000 sounds good and is a nice 'relaxed' amp to listen to in a smaller room. My living room is quite large, and when I want to do some serious listening with the Beovox Pentas, the 8000 is the one to power these large speakers. I just really like the 8000 :)

BTW - build quality on the 8000 is better than the 6000. 8000 feels more solid (and weighs about 45 times more!)

Re: Beovision 3 or Avant

Peter — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 02:18:21 GMT

You need a 4400! In my view, even nicer to listen to! I have fewer these days - 900, a couple of 5500s, 7000, 8000 and 4400. 4401 and Beolab 5000 to come soon! Lee has my 6000 quad - wonderful looking but not that great sounding. The late 6000 is similar to the 4400 in electronic design - how do you find it compares to the 8000?

Re: Beovision 3 or Avant

j0hnbarker — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:38:49 GMT

kallasr:
That is true!
Very nice setup and photos. Makes me wanna trade my beomaster 5000 for a 8000... ;-)
Ralf

Hey - Dave & Kallasr!

The Beomaster 8000 is a rare beast - but well worth it if you can find a good one :) I'm sure Friedmett will back me up here!

I have Beomasters 900/5000/6000 Quad/6000/8000 - and the 8000 is the king for sure :)

Re: Beovision 3 or Avant

kallasr — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:13:16 GMT

That is true!

Very nice setup and photos. Makes me wanna trade my beomaster 5000 for a 8000... ;-)

Ralf

Re: Beovision 3 or Avant

Dave — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:51:42 GMT

Ah very clever re: the lights! hehe i'm on the ball

Of course, i didn't notice! The Beovox look in better proportion somehow. The BM8000 is reminiscent of the beosound 4, thats my opinion, very nice, and totally minimal for it's time. A corner would make the Avant seem slimmer so i see the logic. This would also be true with the other crt's...

I'm really starting to appreciate the older B&O

Re: Beovision 3 or Avant

j0hnbarker — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:10:45 GMT

Dave:
Waw, nice room, the avant is absolutely perfect there, and thats the first time i've liked the look of pentas... they look gorgeous
The BV3 videostand is ridiculous, just like the BV8 video stand. Ridiculous, ugly.
It's fascinating that the uplights compliment the B&O you have - wow! Looks really great. My set up is the total opposite to yours (and with down lights hehe)

If I lived where you live Dave, my uplights would point downwards too ;)

Thanks for your kind words. I like the BV3 on its own, just not with the stand. In my living room though, the only place was in a corner, and that's where the Avant looks great and is very practical with the rotating stand.

Pentas are great speakers, but look better away from corners and against plain decor in modern settings I think. Mine are Beovox, connected to my Beomaster 8000, so don't have the Beolab 150 amp at the bottom which makes them seem more squat. This probably makes them blend in just a little bit more :)

Re: Beovision 3 or Avant

Dave — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:03:04 GMT

Waw, nice room, the avant is absolutely perfect there, and thats the first time i've liked the look of pentas... they look gorgeous

The BV3 videostand is ridiculous, just like the BV8 video stand. Ridiculous, ugly.

It's fascinating that the uplights compliment the B&O you have - wow! Looks really great. My set up is the total opposite to yours (and with down lights hehe)

Re: Beovision 3 or Avant

Meng — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:52:21 GMT

Thanx Foxtrott, that is the info I am looking for..................

Re: Beovision 3 or Avant

Foxtrott — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:29:18 GMT

Meng:

The main question for me was, does the Avant beat the Beovision 3 big time in picture quality and sound or is the difference not that big??? I know the Avant is a bit cheaper second hand. (I think it is!!??)

Hi Meng!

BV3-32 and Avant32 RF have the same chassis and picture tube. One thing that could make a visible difference is that the Avant had the coated anti-reflex screen fitted as standard whereas it was an optional extra on the BV3.
The BV3-28 is based on the 50Hz chassis of the BV1 and is definitely outperformed by the BV3-32 and the Avant

Soundwise the Avant is considered to be a bit better than the BV3-32 (larger cabinet were the speakers are fitted). Also the Avant has a dolby-module as standard (extra on BV3)

Not long ago I changed from an MX7000 to a BV3-32 and I don't regret it. As others said before, the design of the Avant is superb and imho on the way to become a B&O classic.
I also thought about an Avant but two reasons made me opt for the BV3-32:
a) I my room setup the BV3-32 fits better (I have a TV-board where I can hide DVD-player, etc..)
b) I got my BV3-32 a at bargain price.

cheers

Foxtrott

Re: Beovision 3 or Avant

timhanna — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:23:39 GMT

Every day I have doubts in my mind if my BV7 MK3 beats my VCR 28 Avant!!!! Serious

Re: Beovision 3 or Avant

Meng — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:13:49 GMT

Thanxx everyone for your input on this one.

The main question for me was, does the Avant beat the Beovision 3 big time in picture quality and sound or is the difference not that big??? I know the Avant is a bit cheaper second hand. (I think it is!!??)

Conan

Re: Beovision 3 or Avant

timhanna — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:12:38 GMT

Nice Pics! Its true, the Avant is a masterpiece and is timeless. Off its stunnig, on, the picture is amazing and the sound is incredible. I got a BV7-40, 2 weeks ago, after trading in my RF VCR Avant. I still miss it to this very day and will definitely get one when I get a bigger house. My dad still has his 32 DVD RF Silver so at least it still is in the family.

The BV3 is a great TV, it is. But the Avant is timeless and more prettier than any new BV will ever be! Even the BV7! ;)