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Re: Beogram CD X 1986 vintage: diagnostic questions

yyin — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:23:37 GMT

OK, I just want to close the loop on this one.....the CDX player is now fixed and operating properly. The seller was very honorable and very agreeable about fixing all the problems. Thanks to everyone for your suggestions. Enjoy your B&Os.

Re: Beogram CD X 1986 vintage: diagnostic questions

yyin — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:37:03 GMT

I am glad to know that shipping to Denmark is easier than ever. I will keep this option in mind because I am interested in other B&O equipment and looking to buy a couple more items.

Re: Beogram CD X 1986 vintage: diagnostic questions

yyin — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:34:34 GMT

Austin, yes I bought it from a seller named Panther. He has 100% feedback rating so I trusted the ad. He has replied to my email and says he will look into my problems with the CDX.

YF Yin

Re: Beogram CD X 1986 vintage: diagnostic questions

Friedmett — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:57:26 GMT

If the CDX is well packed shipping it to Denmark it really is not the problem. We are not talking Canada here!

I got my CDX in february 2008 and I was prepaired to go to Dillen straight after I bought it as it had typically left hinge broken and some electronic problems to be looked at.

Once Medogsfat fixed the hinge everything else went quick and to this day it's been used nearly every day. It's plugged into my BM8000 which I got along with the CDX and it's sounding pretty good+ working very stable. It even plays CDR's.

I agree that you should work this out with the seller first. Is it worth doing a repair? Yes but mostly in the long run.

Re: Beogram CD X 1986 vintage: diagnostic questions

camshaft — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:56:09 GMT

Yf Yin, did you happen to buy it from a seller named Panther? He often fixes up and re-sells the older B&O cd players. I haven't heard of him trying to scam people though. I'd give him some time to respond to your problems.

Austin

Re: Beogram CD X 1986 vintage: diagnostic questions

yyin — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:29:53 GMT

Martin and Peter,

Thanks to your replies and comments; I am feeling slightly better about my problems already. As I am in the U.S.A. it's not feasible to send my machine to Martin in Denmark to take a look at it. I will give the seller a chance to respond to my questions. I now believe he serviced the machine himself recently, judging from the way it was advertised. It wasn't exactly a bargain because I was led to believe I would get years of use out of this machine. I will update you guys in a week or so about my situation.

YF Yin

Re: Beogram CD X 1986 vintage: diagnostic questions

Peter — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:03:04 GMT

Sounds like this CDX was advertised as having been serviced. Interesting to see if it has new capacitors! There is actually a factory authorised fix for this machine involving the solder joints between boards.

By the way, it was actually made in Belgium at the Philips factory and is a reboxed Philips CD104 - which was the best machine of its time.

Re: Beogram CD X 1986 vintage: diagnostic questions

Dillen — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:52:46 GMT

Hi and welcome to Beoworld !

I agree that it sounds like bad solders.
Actually a very common fault that can cause the strangest symptoms.
This is probably not going to be an expensive repair, the cheapest I can imagine to a Beogram CD X, really.
The problem could be to find one willing to accept the repair.
I'm in Denmark and I will be happy to take a look at it.

The following is not aimed specifically at you, it was just an opportunity among many:

"...then the repair will likely cost more than what I paid for the unit..."
Whenever I hear this sentence, I can't stop thinking: YES, exactly !

- Buy B&O cheap and expect to pay for some repairs and accept this or
- Buy B&O recently serviced, it will be more expensive but expect it to work and hold the seller to it if it doesn't.

If the seller didn't state that he gives no warranty, he can be forced to take it back but if it was cheap I don't think that would be the best solution for you if you want a Beogram CD X.
I agree with the others, it's a wonderful machine, however goofy to repair.

Martin

Re: Beogram CD X 1986 vintage: diagnostic questions

yyin — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:44:46 GMT

I was mainly drawn to the clean design and the touch sensitive operations.

YF Yin

Re: Beogram CD X 1986 vintage: diagnostic questions

Peter — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:30:15 GMT

I like the CDX but it is a 14 bit machine. Not sure I would call it audiophile! I do use one myself though! Agree about contacting the seller.

Re: Beogram CD X 1986 vintage: diagnostic questions

yyin — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:21:46 GMT

Craig,

You're right and I've contacted the seller. Naturally, he's not in a hurry to address my questions.

YF Yin

Re: Beogram CD X 1986 vintage: diagnostic questions

Craig — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:50:40 GMT

If I were you I would be contacting the seller.

Craig

Re: Beogram CD X 1986 vintage: diagnostic questions

yyin — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:01:32 GMT

Peter,

By the way, here's what the Seller claimed on his eBay listing, and I quote:

Here's a SIGNIFICANTLY UPGRADED BANG & OLUFSEN CDX AUDIOPHILE CD PLAYER!!

Touch sensitive front panel gives trouble-free control of all functions, lid opens and closes freely and tracking of CDs is superb.

These units are WORLD CLASS construction with the legendary Philips CDM-1 Optical pickup unit for stunning clarity and solid, lifelike reproduction over the entire audio spectrum.

This unit has been UPGRADED with HIGH QUALITY CAPACITORS in both the SIGNAL PATH and the POWER SUPPLY. UNIT has been lubricated, cleaned, and adjusted according to FACTORY SPECIFICATIONS per the Original Service Literature. This CDX Player will give you YEARS of Listening Pleasure.

The Cabinet and Panels are in NEAR MINT condition and all contacts, connectors and switches have been CLEANED with a space-age conductive liquid to ensure total integrity of the signal path! With these improvements, the sound you get is: AWESOME - CLEAN, CLEAR, CRISP and FREE of LISTENING FATIGUE.

Hook this unit up to your system and HEAR THE BANG & OLUFSEN DIFFERENCE!!

AFTER THE AUCTION IS COMPLETED, this unit will be packed SECURELY to ensure its safe transit.

(YF Yin: in subsequent reading of the ad, it now sounds to me as though the Seller is someone who buys old B&O and resell them after working on them.)

Re: Beogram CD X 1986 vintage: diagnostic questions

yyin — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:55:03 GMT

Peter,

First of all, thank you for replying so quickly. If you mean solder joints on the main electronic board, then the repair will likely cost more than what I paid for the unit. Is there anything I can do without sending the unit out? Thanks.

YF Yin

Beogram CD X, Model 5123

Re: Beogram CD X 1986 vintage: diagnostic questions

Peter — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:44:27 GMT

Unusual symptoms. However they do seem to be likely to be temperature related so I would suggest dry solder joints ( a common CDX failing!) could be the problem.