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Re: Poor picture quality DVD player BV7

Roger — Wed, 06 Jun 2007 02:07:14 GMT

Hi Michael,

I do not know exactly how smart this feature is. But it is not entirely true, as stated in an earlier post, that film mode doesn't do anything to improve the end result: It will make sure that details of a moving object appear clearer (compared to "sport/regular mode", where the texture of a ball is not as important as a fluid movement) - the side effect is the well-known ripple effect between the moving object and the background.

Roger

Re: Poor picture quality DVD player BV7

Mike — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:27:00 GMT

Hi Roger,

do you know if the AUTO mode tries to detect a film only once when a source is selected (when switching tv channels or starting a DVD), or is it done continuously?

If the latter is true, there might be a chance that the film mode is activated inadvertently, for example when someone watches a sports event. In that case I think it is best to either set the mode to ON or OFF.

Michael

Re: Poor picture quality DVD player BV7

Roger — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 07:31:57 GMT

One could argue if there is a difference between ON and AUTO. When watching a DVD the Film Mode would be on always, but by selecting AUTO you could avoid activating it while watching a football match recorded on a DVD. AUTO will try to detect if the material is a movie or not.

Roger

Re: Poor picture quality DVD player BV7

Coolskin — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 07:19:22 GMT

Roger:
Michael,
Yes, the Film Mode function is meant to process moving pictures in a different way when watching a movie compared to, say, sports. But the good thing is that you can turn it on/off as you please - so just give it a try. Some prefer to leave it on (and it may be the best option, knowing the B&O viewing panel and their track record) and a selected few prefer to turn it off.
Roger

One question.

In hidden menu: picture adjustments, feature box menu, movie mode

the options are

OFF

AUTO

Can you tell something more about the AUTO function?

Re: Poor picture quality DVD player BV7

Doc — Sat, 02 Jun 2007 05:14:22 GMT

Will the BS3 panel of the new BV7 be better?

Marcel

Re: Poor picture quality DVD player BV7

Flappo The Grate — Tue, 29 May 2007 00:53:46 GMT

film mode is weird , it creates a bizarre pixellated mess about anything that moves and also gives everything else a kind of queasy , stomach churning other worldliness quality that i find most disconcerting

it's like watching everything while being high i imagine , not a pleasant experience i think

eeeurgh

Re: Poor picture quality DVD player BV7

Philippe — Fri, 25 May 2007 09:10:55 GMT

None... It's just a crappy stuff inherited from Philips (a brand well-known for their lousy picture treatments, such as Pixel Plus that makes any given film look like it was filmed as a live show).

Philippe

Re: Poor picture quality DVD player BV7

martin01 — Fri, 25 May 2007 06:07:13 GMT

What disadvantages is there to put Film-mode Off?

/Martin

Re: Poor picture quality DVD player BV7

Coolskin — Thu, 24 May 2007 23:33:49 GMT

Roger:
There are scene's where I do feel that Film Mode can't cope: If the camera is moving to follow a moving actor against a rather detailed background. A recent example of the effect (comparing Film Mode with the uber-cool BeoSystem 3) is when watching Casino Royale.

Roger

I do want to add the movie "House of Flying Daggers".

The scenes in the bamboo forest made me sad, when I saw the ghost image during the scene.

For test I did turned the movie mode OFF. Hope I can see a difference with the upcoming movies to watch.

Re: Poor picture quality DVD player BV7

moxxey — Thu, 24 May 2007 04:11:50 GMT

Roger:
A recent example of the effect (comparing Film Mode with the uber-cool BeoSystem 3) is when watching Casino Royale.

Oh dear. This is the only (recent) movie when, for the first time in years, I turned on the Film Mode! I noticed a big difference from the start as, like you say, the camera follows the actors against a moving background. There appeared to be a shadow/effect around the actors. Result? Film Mode went off again, fairly quickly, and I've not tried it since!

Re: Poor picture quality DVD player BV7

Roger — Thu, 24 May 2007 03:59:19 GMT

Michael,

Yes, the Film Mode function is meant to process moving pictures in a different way when watching a movie compared to, say, sports. But the good thing is that you can turn it on/off as you please - so just give it a try. Some prefer to leave it on (and it may be the best option, knowing the B&O viewing panel and their track record) and a selected few prefer to turn it off.

There are scene's where I do feel that Film Mode can't cope: If the camera is moving to follow a moving actor against a rather detailed background. A recent example of the effect (comparing Film Mode with the uber-cool BeoSystem 3) is when watching Casino Royale.

Roger

Re: Poor picture quality DVD player BV7

Michael — Wed, 23 May 2007 19:08:45 GMT

Roger,

Just wanted to clarify. I just bought a used Beosystem 1 and was planning on defeating the Filmmode for the same reasons as Mr. Wedendhal. Are you saying, however, that by defeating Film Mode you reduce some quality aspects of the upconversion other than motion compensation?

Michael

Atlanta

Re: Poor picture quality DVD player BV7

Emmanuel92 — Wed, 16 May 2007 16:19:34 GMT

tom:
Peter:
No. You do need to go into the service menu.
I know how to access the service menu, checked it for the "film mode", but I could not find it. I wanted to see what difference it makes. Could you tell in witch chapter I can find the film mode?

Some old software do not offer this choice. My BV3 is v7.3, and I can't disable it. Hopefully I like it very much !

Re: Poor picture quality DVD player BV7

Doc — Wed, 16 May 2007 13:08:11 GMT

Do you get the funny outline with or without FilmMode?

Re: Poor picture quality DVD player BV7

Roger — Tue, 15 May 2007 13:57:33 GMT

Marcel,

The Film Mode feature isn't all bad. It is a digital motion compensation for sharp motion reproduction, and does so in quite a few cases - but objects that move, especially while the camera is moving too, will get this funny outline that we all learned to dislike with the old Avant and the BeoVision 3.

Roger