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Re: Deleted Post

Medogsfat — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:23:45 GMT

beobuff:
Peter :

I can see no posts that have been deleted today. We do delete posts - usually duplicate ones. The site filter also will hold up some posts due to inappropriate language, though that is automatic. Very rarely is a post deleted for other reasons - advertising, defaming another person or a post that could cause offense are about all that I can think of. We do have a couple of individuals who due to their actions have been banned and their attempts to post are not tolerated.
Otherwise, I will defend the right of free speech as far as I possibly can and I know the other moderators feel the same. I have no idea what iphone is posting about.
I have no idea what the present flap is about, but I would like to note for the record that you did choose to delete a post I made a few weeks back with a tongue-in-cheek comment I made about our American President Bush, citing it as being political and likely to be offensive to some members. I was fascinated to see that you did not choose to delete a subsequent negative comment a U. K. poster made in a different thread in reference to your P. M. Gordon Brown. Apparent you choose to extend the rights of free speech to your compatriots but not to those in the former colonies. Did you folks not learn anything from the events of 1776?

Can we please put everything into context here. I do not know the comment to which you refer beobuff as I don't read everything posted on Beoworld as it would be nigh on impossible for me to do so and lead a normal life at the same time. To be perfectly honest with you I don't know the political inclinataions & viewpoints of any of the other moderators on site - nor do I wish to know them as my only interest here is the B&O brand and I'm sure this goes for the rest of the moderating team. What I can assure you is that Beoworld is a forum for B&O enthusiasts and is run accordingly, sometimes politcal issues do crop up and we deal with them as we see fit and accordingly at the time. However as a non poltical organisation we are bound to get things wrong from time to time and if you feel this is the case then I offer my personal apologies - we only strive to make the world a better place for enthusiasts of this brand and not as a platform for global harmony and peace to all mankind. Although that would be nice

As for 1776 we learned that we shouldn't really supply armaments to people who could so readily turn them against us but the biggest lesson was in 1773 when we should have learned the value of tea & over taxing. 1776 would probably never have happened if this had been the case - but don't expect me to start apologising for the failings of my forebears - I only apologise for my own actions, full stop.

I am locking this thread for now as I feel it is basically going nowhere constructive and it isn't offering anything at all to the forum other than creating ill feeing & suspicions which I guess was the OP's original intention in anycase. Beobuff please feel free to PM me if you feel you need to open a discussion on your post which was deleted.

Re: Deleted Post

beobuff — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:55:12 GMT

Peter :
I can see no posts that have been deleted today. We do delete posts - usually duplicate ones. The site filter also will hold up some posts due to inappropriate language, though that is automatic. Very rarely is a post deleted for other reasons - advertising, defaming another person or a post that could cause offense are about all that I can think of. We do have a couple of individuals who due to their actions have been banned and their attempts to post are not tolerated.
Otherwise, I will defend the right of free speech as far as I possibly can and I know the other moderators feel the same. I have no idea what iphone is posting about.

I have no idea what the present flap is about, but I would like to note for the record that you did choose to delete a post I made a few weeks back with a tongue-in-cheek comment I made about our American President Bush, citing it as being political and likely to be offensive to some members. I was fascinated to see that you did not choose to delete a subsequent negative comment a U. K. poster made in a different thread in reference to your P. M. Gordon Brown. Apparent you choose to extend the rights of free speech to your compatriots but not to those in the former colonies. Did you folks not learn anything from the events of 1776?

Re: Please delete my beoworld account!

Medogsfat — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:49:42 GMT

Jandyt:

Sadly, to the best of my knowledge, the original poster never made a second post
I had read the response from iphone whilst I was dashing off to work but turned my car round and dashed back to log on and re-assure the OP but wasn't quick enough, he had gone off line. Think iphone achieveed his goal.
Andy T.
PS. Nice response Chris

Heyup Andy.

Just what I've said - only a I'm a couple of minute later - beer induced sausage fingers methinks, go to the workbench section and see my pathetic attempt at a "jandyt style" thread. I just don't have your patience nor photographic skills mate (mind you I had 2 on the go which are being returned on Monday so time was a little short)

Chris..

Re: Please delete my beoworld account!

Medogsfat — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:42:54 GMT

tournedos:

Alex:
I come for the information and chatter, but I stay for the Drama! haha :-D
Yeah, I also wonder where these "conflicts" keep on coming from I remember reading the problem post we're discussing - I wouldn't have doomed it worth deleting (just utterly stupid) if it had also contained a single word of useful information. Sadly, it didn't. I hope that new poster wasn't scared off after receiving such an anti-welcome.

That was the problem mika, The originator of the post never wrote a follow up message which may have been down to the off hand reply posted by iphone, or maybe not, we'll never know, and that was a real shame

The whole thread died on its feet as a result and an opportunity was missed not only for the OP but anyone else who may have had the the same problem.

Chris.

Re: Please delete my beoworld account!

Jandyt — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:34:13 GMT

Sadly, to the best of my knowledge, the original poster never made a second post
I had read the response from iphone whilst I was dashing off to work but turned my car round and dashed back to log on and re-assure the OP but wasn't quick enough, he had gone off line. Think iphone achieveed his goal.

Andy T.

PS. Nice response Chris

Re: Please delete my beoworld account!

tournedos — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:23:56 GMT

Alex:
I come for the information and chatter, but I stay for the Drama! haha :-D

Yeah, I also wonder where these "conflicts" keep on coming from I remember reading the problem post we're discussing - I wouldn't have doomed it worth deleting (just utterly stupid) if it had also contained a single word of useful information. Sadly, it didn't. I hope that new poster wasn't scared off after receiving such an anti-welcome.

Re: Please delete my beoworld account!

Alex — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:00:09 GMT

I come for the information and chatter, but I stay for the Drama! haha :-D

Re: Please delete my beoworld account!

joeyboygolf — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:39:11 GMT

Excellent post Chris, I can think of nothing to add.

Re: Please delete my beoworld account!

Alex — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:17:49 GMT

I think I remember which one post this was - not exactly a helpful comment IMO and the mods would be completely justified for removing it.

Re: Please delete my beoworld account!

Peter — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:56:01 GMT

I was going to post a long response, and indeed had started, but I really cannot think of anything relevant to add to Chris' post. I agree completely!

Re: Please delete my beoworld account!

Medogsfat — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:52:19 GMT

iphone:

Please delete my beoworld account as soon as possible. If there is no free speech, there is no purpose on remaining on beoworld. I have many positives to say about beoworld but censoring my comments for no apparent reason (since some B&O products are unsatisfactory) is wrong in my opinion.

After this, I will not be donating to a radical extremist website like beoworld. Thank you.

I really have no idea what your problem is, no one on Beoworld has EVER censored comments on products, I certainly haven't deleted anything you, or anyone else for that matter, have said about them. Yes you have had some comments deleted and for very valid reasons, some for being over zealously nationalistic which were distasteful in the least, some for trying to bring a personal argument with your dealer on board which is frankly nothing to do with Beoworld and the comment I personally deleted for being rude and totally insensitive to a new member who posted a reasonable request for help to which you your reply gave entirely the wrong impression of the vast majority of the Beoworld membership.

I'm sorry you feel this way but to be part of this community you really have to abide by the rules and decisions made by the moderating team. If you have a problem with that then you should raise it with us instead of stampeding headlong into posting inaccuracies on the forum. Rules are set to avoid this forum becoming anarchistic (as in all walks of life) and the ones laid down are IMO quite lenient and reasonable but will not tolerate anti social behavour or personal abuse via messages on the board or by PM. If you feel inclined to leave then fine that is your right of choice and good luck to you.

Chris.

Re: Please delete my beoworld account!

archie — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:02:27 GMT

You are not a gold member, you never pay , if you are not happy, the more easy thing it's never come back

Re: Please delete my beoworld account!

Tom — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:46:00 GMT

iphone:
After this, I will not be donating to a radical extremist website like beoworld. Thank you.

Please delete my beoworld account!

iphone — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:43:28 GMT

Please delete my beoworld account as soon as possible. If there is no free speech, there is no purpose on remaining on beoworld. I have many positives to say about beoworld but censoring my comments for no apparent reason (since some B&O products are unsatisfactory) is wrong in my opinion.

After this, I will not be donating to a radical extremist website like beoworld. Thank you.

Re: Deleted Post

Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:30:33 GMT

iphone 19 Apr 08:
I was going to donate to this site to become a Silver or Gold but now I know I will never support such an anti free speech place.

iphone 04 Apr 08:
How do you donate money to Beoworld?
Does beoworld accept checks and if so, who should it be payable to?
This is a wonderful site.

You said that before, what are you waiting for ?