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  • 11-13-2009 7:27 AM

    • riders
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    beocenter 2 and philips LCD

    Hello,

    After browsing through various posts in several forums I would like to post my situation.

    I have got a beocenter 2 with two beolabs 9 and combined this setup with my 1 year old Philips LCD (full HD, 37''). Now I have the following problem:

    1. When I play a DVD I have a time gap between the sound over the beolabs and the sound coming out of the TV. The sound of the beolabs is a little ahead of the sound of the TV speakers. Therefore the sound of the beolabs is not at the same time as the lip movement in the TV picture. The TV is connected with a scart wire ans a cinch (L/R) via Audio Out (L/R) from the TV to A/Aux in (L/R) at the beocenter 2. When you change from DVD to A/Aux on the Beo 4 remote control the sound is isosynchron and there is no time gap. My question: is there a loss of quality of the sound when I switch from DVD to A/Aux on my Beo 4? I mean when I watch a concert on DVD and want to listen to the sound. With A/Aux setting the sound comes from the TV and then via beocenter 2 to the beolabs 9, I aasume. In addition, with the A/Aux setting on the Beo 4 I cannot navigate the DVD with the remote (switching chapters, slow motion, etc.) I have to switch in the DVD setting (and have to accept the time gap for a while), give the command on the remote and then switch back to the A/Aux setting - a little inconvenient.

    Are there any suggestions how I can get rid of the time gap and watch the DVD also in DVD setting ? Please do not post: get a beovision, then you have no more problems. I do have the Philips TV and would like to combine it with the beocenter 2 as well as possible. Is there a chance to controll the Philips TV with the Beo 4 remote ?

    2. The display of the beocenter 2: Radio, Audio CD all fine - problem with an audio mp3 CD, DVD. My beocenter is brand new (I think MK II, with the "click" sound). When I put in an audio CD with mp3 files there is just the word "Disk" on the display. I can changes titel with the Beo 4 but I don't see where I am. When I put the same CD in the beocenter at my dealer I could see on the display which CD and what title was playing on the display. I don't know if the beocenter at my dealer is of an earlier generation (MK I). I have read in several posts that the display of the newer beocenters do not provide the CD and title information. Is this true? Does that mean that everytime I want to listen to an mp3 audio CD I have to switch on the TV, press yellow button and 3 on the Beo 4 and switch to the Disk navigator, put the sound on the TV on mute (because of the time gap) and then navigate through the CD ? Pow - what an effort !

    My beocenter 2 also plays a DVD with audio mp3's - I did not read that in the user manual. Does everybody know that ?

    Sorry for the amount of text, but thanks a lot for constructive ideas and help.

    Have a nice day to all of you

    riders

  • 11-13-2009 8:22 AM In reply to

    Re: beocenter 2 and philips LCD

    Hi there,

    The time gap is completely intentional, it is supposed to compensate for the delay between speech on TV & sound from the speakers, because you are supposed to use a BeoVision..or connect your speakers to your TV . In Beovisions, there is a setting for the speaker delay in the service menu, I don't know if there is one such option with BeoCenter 2.That's also why you have no more delay when pressing AV DVD (audio only). Quite frankly, since you have a pair of Lab9, I would suggest muting your TV, because the sound certainly must be poorer than with Lab 9 only. Controlling the TV with Beo4 (via Lintronic) might help using the system, but won't solve the delay.

    As for the CD display, it may have something to do with the display setup, is it set on "extended" in the CD setup menu? If you have selected normal display, the tag info might show only when pressing a key on BeoCenter, or a key on Beo4, then the display goes back to normal mode after a few seconds. Selecting extended display will solve that.

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  • 11-13-2009 10:23 AM In reply to

    • riders
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    Re: beocenter 2 and philips LCD

    Thank you for the reply. If the time gap is intentional, that means that everybody that combines a B&O system with a non B&O TV must have the same problem. Muting the TV does not help because the lip movement in the picture is different to the sound coming from the beolabs. Quite frankly I don't know if the beocenters 2 has the option to change the speaker delay and adapt to a different TV set.

    Yes, the display is set to "extended", still there is just "Disks" appearing on the display.

  • 11-13-2009 11:34 AM In reply to

    • TWG
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    Re: beocenter 2 and philips LCD

    Hi,

    the "get a Beovision" tip is nonsense!

    The audio gap is not B&O related, it is a general problem of all LCD-/Plasma-TVs because they have to compute the picturesignal internaly! The Audiosignal is running nearly 1:1 through the TV and this is why there is a gap between the picture and the sound.

    The feature is called "lipsync" and you should be able to adjust it in your TV as I don't think that it's possible in the Beocenter 2.

    Normaly you can adjust "lipsync" settings inside most modern AV-Receivers to get rid of this anoying problem!

    If your TV doesn't support any of these settings you have to live with this problem - which you only notice if both systems are active: External speakers and the TV-speaker.
    A friend of mine has the same problem with complete non B&O equipment; it is very common...

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