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  • 07-24-2009 12:55 PM

    • Teletom
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    ' Sound interruptions' in N-Radio with my BeoPort

    Last year I've integrated a BeoPort into my BS3000/BL8000 system.

    Generally speaking the combination works perfectly well, with the exception of the following: 

    From the beginning, when listening to N-Radio, I experienced quite a few sound interruptions in (many classical) radiostations, These interruptions vary up to several seconds. I changed the buffertime settings in the N-Radio configuration-window in steps from 5 to 12 seconds, however without any improvements. Also, I have installed all Beoport SW-updates including the latest 5.02 version.  

    Is there anything I can do?

    Any advice is highly appreciated

    Thanks a lot,

    Johan

  • 07-24-2009 2:42 PM In reply to

    Re: ' Sound interruptions' in N-Radio with my BeoPort

    Same as mine - mine is due to a rubbish internet speed.

  • 07-24-2009 3:08 PM In reply to

    Re: ' Sound interruptions' in N-Radio with my BeoPort

    I listen to N radio via a Roku unit feeding into a Beomaster 1200. The source is Virgin (ex Telewest) broadband using their lowest speed (which comes with a telephone/TV standard package). I would say that on average I get a 10 to 15 second break once every 30 minutes. Every now and then input is lost completely and the Roku unit just keeps retrying to connect but can't. At this point disconnecting the power and effectively rebooting the unit effects a cure. I am guessing that if I subscribed to Virgin's highest speed broadband package I could eliminate some of the breaks.

    Graham

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  • 07-24-2009 3:18 PM In reply to

    • SWISS_2
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    Re: ' Sound interruptions' in N-Radio with my BeoPort

    The " drop outs " are caused by the Internet speed you have, and the demand at the time on the Internet as a whole.

    Listening alone is fine at times, but do computer work at the same time, download a film, or CD,  and the drop outs increase. Do all of the above at 5  (1700 ) in the evening, and the multiplier  increases again.

    My solution is to work late at night, or early in the morning to avoid this. Of course some stations then go off the air ( or off the Net ) entirely then.

  • 07-28-2009 5:09 AM In reply to

    • Teletom
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    Re: ' Sound interruptions' in N-Radio with my BeoPort

    Many thanks Peter, Graham and Swiss-2 for your answers!

    I am still trying to understand  the "drop-outs" thing in our own home situation. I have no specific knowledge of data transmission technology etc. so I may think far too simple with the following approach:

    - The majority of internetstations streams at 128 kbps ( kilo bits per second)

    - I have checked the internetspeed in our home several times (with N.Radio on) and right now it varies from 8000 to 9000 kbps. So that's about 60 times more.  In my perception I think that's quite a margin.

    - Generally speaking when listening to N.Radio the computer is not being used for any other (internet) activity.

    So obviously the problems are introduced somewhere else in the internet 'pipeline', which obviously we, as N-Radio users, are not able to control.

    If this is true and dropouts in N.Radio is beyond our control, do'nt you think internet radio may lose quite a bit of its (potential) attraction. Not only for Beoport users but not in the last place also for BS/BM5 customers who depend i.m.o. entirely on internet if they have no addtional audiomaster.

    Johan

  • 07-28-2009 4:19 PM In reply to

    Re: ' Sound interruptions' in N-Radio with my BeoPort

    I agree Johan.

    The drop-outs I experience seem to have nothing to do with my own computer etc use. Although I am connected to one of the most reliable broadband services in the UK, the fact is that the ISP has occasional momentary technical problems that may not be noticed with other services such as web browsing and email but are almost immediately evident with N Radio. Add to that the possibility that the N Radio station may be using a similar ISP for his uploading (with similar technical problems) then it's perhaps surprising that the service is as good as it is!

    If you listen to small niche stations who may not be using the very best ISPs the situation is bound to be less reliable than with a major broadcaster.

    None of the new N Radio or DAB services can quite match old fashioned (but condemned?) FM radio broadcasts for sound quality and continuity.

    The multiplicity of ever changing technical advances must be a real problem for all receiver manufacturers, but more so for niche manufacturers like B&O who have got to follow both technical advances and the restrictions imposed by internationally agreed broadcasting changes (and second guess the standards that might survive more than a few years.)

    Graham

     

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  • 08-04-2009 4:56 PM In reply to

    • SWISS_2
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    Re: ' Sound interruptions' in N-Radio with my BeoPort

    Teletom;

    Your analogy of a "pipeline" is quite correct. Part of a problem can be the length of the pipeline, bifurcations along the way, and how many other users are along the way in front of you. Our expensive B&O A/V equipment is only as good as the signal strength it receives.

    When the Beoport came to the market, I was an early buyer. However, I could not get the N.RADIO signal to hold,  and experienced frequent dropouts. After checking my system, and the strength of the radio broadcast signals, I then checked the line itself.

    I found the line itself was very old, corroded, and being up a hill, 1000 M from the junction box in the street, I was fortunate to receive anything. A few calls and a letter documenting the problem resulted in a verified signal-test ( poor to zero ) and a new high-speed replacement line being pulled.

    Voila ! Everything improved: VOIP, Internet, HD film downloads, etc.

     

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