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  • 09-19-2008 10:53 AM

    Advice needed

    Hi Folks - first time post here.

    Apologies if this is a newbie question asked a million times.  I have done a bit of a search of the forum but can not find the answers.  Please redirect me if a thread already exists. 

    28 years ago my parents bought a B&O TV - it is still their main TV and it is still the best TV I have ever seen or heard.  Its has had its guns boosted about 10 times and a new power switch.  I have spent the last 10 years trying to convince them to get a new TV so I can inherit this one!  No Joy :-(  I think they want to be buried with it.

    Anyway - last night my BUSH tv popped - my son knocked into it and the colour has gone all over the place.

    so I am now in the market for a new TV.  Wife convinced of second hand B&O.  Ebay search saved and monitored regularly.  But which one should I bid on?  Not having followed the models and reviews as they came out I am a bit clueless. here are my requirements.

    CRT ONLY - It seems I am not alone in thinking that flatscreen is not all that.  I want CRT becauase it has decades of development behind it, will not be going on a wall - so depth dimension is not important.

    I will not be doing anything with blueray or HD

    size has to be above 24" (current bust tv is 20" and too small) personally I think bigger is better but wife may need convincing.

    Looks: colour and style not particulary important they all seem to look beautiful anyway, same goes for sound - I'm not a massive audiophile and I'd imagine they all sound a zillion times better than my mono BUSH.  (I'm guessing they are all stereo)?  I dont really need a rotating stand or curtains or other gagetery - but I have no aversion to them.

    Have small children, so stability would be nice - I dont want something that they could squish themselves under! 

    I have an ext video and DVD that I would be happy to use - so I'm not really interested in what is integrated into the telly.

    Age is not that important as I'm guessing it will be reflected in price and after all....28 years on my parents one.   I have a good TV
    repairman on hand also to boost tubes etc 

    Cost is not really an issue but the fact I am buying second hand gives an indication that I am after a bargain and dont have "NEW TV" money to spend. 

    I guess what I'm after is something as nice and reliable and sturdy and sexy as my parents TV
     

    Have big car will collect. 

     

    Many thanks in advance
  • 09-19-2008 10:59 AM In reply to

    Re: Advice needed

    i dunno where you are...
    how about this

    oh! welcome to beoworld, too!
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  • 09-19-2008 11:03 AM In reply to

    Re: Advice needed

    Many thanks,  - i'm quite a way from B'ham though - Im south london way.  What I really need to know is... what is the best model for me?  what do you guys rate as the best B&O model ever made, which one is middle of the road, and are there any I should avoid? Avant range any good?  av9000 any good?  i know nothing other than I love the brand and the products I have seen
  • 09-19-2008 11:05 AM In reply to

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    Re: Advice needed

    Hello and welcome to Beoworld

    You can take a look on here too

    Quim

  • 09-19-2008 11:07 AM In reply to

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    Quim43:

    Hello and welcome to Beoworld

    You can take a look on here too

    Ahhh - many thanks - a few short descriptions of each range here! - and some for sale too! 

  • 09-19-2008 11:10 AM In reply to

    Re: Advice needed

    Hi Sly...,

     WELCOME!

    If i should choose  an used CRT tv i would go for a BeoVision Avant 28/32 DVD(built in DVD=only one remote).

    The picture is superb and the sound even better. Only minus is the sheer size of the television.

    If smaller is wanted i would go for a BeoVision 1 or a BeoVision MX8000 depending on you want 25" or 28".

    The only minus with these are the format; Avant is 16:9 the others are 4:3.

    If price is important i would go for a BeoVision MX7000.  Excellent design and a very sturdy television. Very low repair costs.

    It doesnt matter which one you will buy, you will firsthand experience what a Bang & Olufsen can give you..

     Cant wait to hear what you choose.

     

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  • 09-19-2008 11:12 AM In reply to

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    BMGHB:

    Hi Sly...,

     WELCOME!

    If i should choose  an used CRT tv i would go for a BeoVision Avant 28/32 DVD(built in DVD=only one remote).

    The picture is superb and the sound even better. Only minus is the sheer size of the television.

    If smaller is wanted i would go for a BeoVision 1 or a BeoVision MX8000 depending on you want 25" or 28".

    The only minus with these are the format; Avant is 16:9 the others are 4:3.

    If price is important i would go for a BeoVision MX7000.  Excellent design and a very sturdy television. Very low repair costs.

    It doesnt matter which one you will buy, you will firsthand experience what a Bang & Olufsen can give you..

     Cant wait to hear what you choose.

     

    Thanx ever so much for this - exactly the sort of advice I'm after.  You guys should have a pinned thread like this for every product range, eg 1 for speakers, 1 for sound systems, 1 for telephones etc etc

     

    BTW I have a B&O telephone - probably one of the favorite things I have 

  • 09-19-2008 11:15 AM In reply to

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    Re: Advice needed

    I agree - look for an avant with RF tube.

    They are selling ridiculously cheap at the minute - I missed out on a 32" RF DVD a couple of days ago which sold on ebay for £500 on a buy it now, I was gutted by being beaten by the press of a button. You won't find a better CRT TV anywhere, don't be tempted by a curved screen one (particularly the 28") as the tubes in most of these are now failing and are very expensive to replace and nowhere near economically viable.

    Chris.

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  • 09-19-2008 11:28 AM In reply to

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    Medogsfat:

    I agree - look for an avant with RF tube.

    They are selling ridiculously cheap at the minute - I missed out on a 32" RF DVD a couple of days ago which sold on ebay for £500 on a buy it now, I was gutted by being beaten by the press of a button. You won't find a better CRT TV anywhere, don't be tempted by a curved screen one (particularly the 28") as the tubes in most of these are now failing and are very expensive to replace and nowhere near economically viable.

    Chris.

    Many thanks,  I was slightly leaning towards the Avant models! But what is an RF tube? will the seller specify this?  How do I identify a curved screen one?  surely all the CRTs have slightly curved screens  - thats partly why I want one! Interestingly  - none of the ones on ebay are like my parents - all much newer!

  • 09-19-2008 1:57 PM In reply to

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    I imagine you parents have something like an LX5500. You can get something like an LX6000 for less than £100 these days. The MX range come a variety of sizes and both of these sets will probably have a better picture than the widescreen ones. However they are getting old. I would agree with the above and get an Avant RF. You can tell these as the entire front is a glass screen. Beocentral does a good description.
  • 09-19-2008 2:29 PM In reply to

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    Re: Advice needed

    I agree. You can't go wrong with an Avant! One of the best TVs ever made.
    They have a great following on here, and as Chris pointed out, they are fetching ridiculously low prices at the moment. £5,000 telly for £500 seems the norm!

    Andy T.

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  • 09-19-2008 2:39 PM In reply to

    Re: Advice needed

    I was in same situation like you !

    And I was bought Beocenter 1 from Lifestile AV.

    From my point of view BC1 is the most beautiful CRT TV on the market EVER produce, sophisticated design, slightly curved front glass, triangle speaker cabinet, (look at the new beovision 4 and beolab 10 )  beautiful choice of different motorize stand, truly B&O design, outstanding picture and sound quality, even it looks astonishing from back! This peace of equipment is an art, stand alone sculpture.... that have some sound and emotions even when is turn off :)  Do I need to say more.... :)

    Second one is Beovision 3 - 32, same picture qualiy like an 32 avant! great !

    Happy buying :)
     

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  • 09-19-2008 3:47 PM In reply to

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    Re: Advice needed

    slybynight:

    Many thanks,  I was slightly leaning towards the Avant models! But what is an RF tube? will the seller specify this?  How do I identify a curved screen one?  surely all the CRTs have slightly curved screens  - thats partly why I want one! Interestingly  - none of the ones on ebay are like my parents - all much newer!

    RF= Real Flat. Fairly easy to distinguish - all of the DVD models have them & only the later VHS versions. Also when you look at the profile the screen is absolutely flat as a pancake, with the non-RF there is a slight curvature. If you're in any doubt simply ask for the model number from the back label and cross referrence it to the different versions on the Beoworld products pages.

     

    Chris.

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  • 09-19-2008 4:27 PM In reply to

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    Re: Advice needed

    burantek:
    i dunno where you are...
    how about this

    oh! welcome to beoworld, too!

    Thanks for the plug Jeff.Wink If you want a widescreen TV then as suggested Avants are fantistic value at the moment. Or look at the BV3, built on the same chassis(Internals) as the Avant.

     

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  • 09-19-2008 4:52 PM In reply to

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    Re: Advice needed

    Wasn't it just the 32" BV3 that shared the Avant chassis Craig? I'm pretty sure the 28" BV3 was an entry level TV, I know you like yours Craig but to be honest the styling of the BV3 never quite cut the mustard with me - dunno why...

     

    Chris.

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  • 09-19-2008 5:37 PM In reply to

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    Medogsfat:

    Wasn't it just the 32" BV3 that shared the Avant chassis Craig? I'm pretty sure the 28" BV3 was an entry level TV, I know you like yours Craig but to be honest the styling of the BV3 never quite cut the mustard with me - dunno why...

     

    Chris.

    Chris you are correct, the BV3-32 has the same chassis as the Avant. Where the BV3-28 shares the same chassis as the BV1.

     

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  • 09-19-2008 6:11 PM In reply to

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    Re: Advice needed

    Craig:
    Medogsfat:

    Wasn't it just the 32" BV3 that shared the Avant chassis Craig? I'm pretty sure the 28" BV3 was an entry level TV, I know you like yours Craig but to be honest the styling of the BV3 never quite cut the mustard with me - dunno why...

     

    Chris.

    Chris you are correct, the BV3-32 has the same chassis as the Avant. Where the BV3-28 shares the same chassis as the BV1.

     

    CraigSmile

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  • 09-20-2008 5:15 AM In reply to

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    Re: Advice needed

    My vote BV3 32 i hade one for years and updated it with surround and the anti reflective screen, fab picture and sound from the internal speakers even if you dont plan on a surround setup.

     

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  • 09-21-2008 5:14 PM In reply to

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    Wow

     

    Thanks guys - soo much info - what can I say? nice little community you have here!

    Well I also popped into my local B& O dealership in the hope of finding an employee who had been there long enough to remember the old CRT models.

    Would you beleive it the had a 32" RF avant in the shop - someone had traded it in!

     

    well it seems ok to me tube count was 432 days - audio count was double that.

     £500 what do you guys reckon?

    Ironically my parents have now decided that they want to get a new TV!!!

     

  • 09-21-2008 5:29 PM In reply to

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    I take it that this is a VCR model? £500 for an RF model is good in my view - having said that the dealer will be aching to get rid of it!
  • 09-21-2008 5:46 PM In reply to

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    No, twas a DVD - heres the odd thing - the service screen showed 0000 hrs on the dvd - the guy must never had used it!  Obviously I would be checking to see if it worked before i parted with the readies. The screen did seem a little dark when compared woth the plasmas etc in the shop but the shop manager said this was normal.
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    Re: Advice needed

    32" RF DVD, £500!
    I would bite his hand off!

    Poor me, never win owt!

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    Re: Advice needed

    Peter :
    I imagine you parents have something like an LX5500.

    Hold your horses Peter! My TV is old, but not that old! Super Angry Wink

    He wrote 28 years so I guess it must be one of these.

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  • 09-22-2008 4:25 AM In reply to

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    Re: Advice needed

    Jandyt:
    32" RF DVD, £500!
    I would bite his hand off!

    Me too!

    Go back and grab it before someone else does, you may even get a few months warranty thrown inWink

     

    Chris.

    EDIT, having thought about this, it may well be that the customer who traded it in used the £500 discount voucher for a working TV trade in against a new BV. In that case the dealer may even take less for it as the discount is a company led intitiative. Either way £500 is still a steal IMO.

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