I am about to acquire a Beomaster 6500 and would like some much valued expertise from this forum to help if my suggested additional equipment is sufficient in order to connect this to my existing TV, music and speakers in a link system. I will try to explain how I would like my setup to be in each room and how I thought to go about this project. Firstly my existing equipment is a MX4000 TV and x3 pairs of passive BeoVox CX100.

This is how I would like everything to work: 

Main Room:   Beomaster (connected to my computers itunes - via the AUX or TAPE2 connection on the beomaster), 2 pairs of speakers that I would like to be able to run all together, or alternately as separate pairs. The beomaster will be situated in a closed cupboard (sorry....sacrelidge to such great design I know) so I guess I would need an eye/tranceiver in this room to be able to control this remotely. What type of tranceiver would I need to get? Could this be connected directly into the Beomaster? If so what type of cable would I need to get hold of? The remote I would use in this room would be either MCP6500, MCP5500 or Beo4.

Room 1:    TV (MX4000) and 1 pair of speakers. I would like to be able to control these speakers so they either play the sound from the TV or from the Beomaster. Would it be possible to do this with volume control in this room as well? I'm not sure what type of extra equipment I would need, but for starters I guess I would need an extra "eye" / tranceiver. What type / types of "relay" box ie. MCL2a / MCL2av / MCL2p? Depending on advise, what type of cables would I need to connect? Remote to be used in this room: Beolink1000.

As I understand the MCL system is now replaced by ML. Would I still be able to get hold of MCL cable? In my research I have found a MCL/ML convertor. Where would I be able to purchase these type of cables? 

I realise that there is quite a few questions here, but thought to put them all in this post and again would be very grateful for help and advise.

Many Thanks beforehand!

Patrik 

You need to connect the MX4000 to the Beomaster via an audio/aux(datalink) cable.You can then play audio sources via the tv.If you want extra speakers on the tv,you will need an amplifier such as MCL2p,Beolink Passive/Ml-MCl converter,connected as a slave to the powerlink socket on the MX.

To operate the BM6500 inside furniture,you could use an Extra speaker kit(2047)connected to SP2.

Regards,

Nick

When it comes to B&O link systems, there was "Datalink" "MCL" which means Master Link Control and Masterlink which we have today.

The sockets of the Beomaster 6500 are as below:-

You will notice that the speaker socket 1 left and right have an extra pin each which makes up the MCL connection

Having your Beosystem 6500 in a closed room will be a problem if you wish to use the MCP (Master Control Panel), but if you use the "Audio Aux Link" connected to a Type 1611 Beolink converter will give you Masterlink for any newer products. However as you have an MX4000 it also has an "Audio Aux Link" connection so, that makes you situation easier.

You can still source MCL cable itself, however what is less commonly available is the MCL cables with the speaker plugs with the extra pin. I have seen them for sale from time to time and Peter or Graham may have more information in this area.

If you were to have a Masterlink TV such as an AVANT connected to your Beosystem 6500 in the closed room via a Beolink 1611 converter then you could use your Beo4 remote with the IR signals going via the AVANT.

I have put together a little illustration to clarify how I would like this link system to work.

The main room is a very large open space, hence all the speakers. So, If I stick to the older "datalink/MCL" system would this diagram work? Is there any equipment I would not need, or any extra equipment I would need to get? How do I connect the "tranceiver" to the BM6500?

In room 1, would I need the "tranceiver" at all? or could I control everything through the MX4000? In this room I would like to listen to music with volume control option from the BM6500 through the CX50 and to watch TV (it would then be great, if possible, to have the CX50 speakers on, or off, in TV mode)

Thanks again for your help and I feel I'm getting closer to understand it all.

Patrik

If this was my system I would do the following:

Connect the BM6500's speaker 2 to a MCL-2A in the main room. This will allow remote control in the main room, when the BM is placed out of sight. Then connect your speaker switch to the MCL-2A, or all of them directly if you always want to play then all together. Remember that the Cona is supposed to be connected between the CXs and the MCL-2A/Switch/Beomaster. The Cona filters the low frequecies out.

From the MCL-2A in the main room I would daisy chain an MCL cable to the link room, where I would install a MCL-2AV. Then connect the MX to the MCL-2AV by a Datalink cable, and then connect the CXs directly to the MX. This way you will not need an amplifier in the link room, or a transceiver.

If you later install a Beovision en the main room you could connect it directly to the Beomaster by a Datalink cable or through a 1611 converter if the TV has MasterLink.

You cannot connect a transceiver to the Beomaster, so you would need the MCL-2A in the main room. And do not use speaker 1, as this will require the hands-on control off the Beomaster or a direct IR command.

With the right option setting everything should work.

In case you do not know www.beotech.co.uk has a lot of information about Link setups and options.

Good luck.

I think it looks OK, but be aware that there is a difference between MCL and Datalink cable. You need MCL cables between the BM and the MCL-2A and between the MCL-2A and the MCL-2AV. You need Datalink cable between the MCL-2AV and the MX.

MCL cable connects to the BM by two plugs, dot-line-dot, like the picture below.

The two plugs are coming from the same cable, where all the wires are color coded. The above picture shows the connection to a MCL-2A.

Datalink, on the other hand, uses a 7 pin DIN plug in both ends.

MCL Cable carries right and left amplified sound and datalink, whereas Datalink cable carries line level signal and datalink.

This is very similar to my setup at home but i have only 1 pair of Redline 6000's connected to my main room system and a beovision with a pair of CX50's in the link room.

Christian is correct - Your 2nd diagram looks fine but you could do it another easier way using less equipment.....

you could use a 7pin din aux-link cable between your two rooms straight from the beomaster to the MX - this way you wouldn't require the MCL2AV or the transciever in the link room (the television acts as the transciever in this case).

However the audio would come from the MX and the two CX50's at the same time if connected via the speaker terminals on the back of the beovision (as you cannot mute the MX's internal speakers without muting the external ones also unless they are powerlink type) - you could use a passive amp to get round this or just live with it!

In the main room i would be worried about overloading the amplifier with so many speakers connected up.

 what i would do in your case is as follows:

• Beomaster (in cupboard) - tape 2 connected to PC, aux connected to Beovision in link room
• Beomaster "speaker 2" socket connected to MCL2AV, connected to transciever in main room
• 2 passive amps connected to powerlink sockets on the MCL2AV [if the beomaster doesn't have enough juice to power them on its own - if it does just use an MCL2A instead]
• connect the outputs of the passive amps to your main room speakers [see comment above]
• link room will have the Beovision connected to the CX50's via the tv's speaker sockets.

ScottMc:

you could use a 7pin din aux-link cable between your two rooms straight from the beomaster to the MX - this way you wouldn't require the MCL2AV or the transceiver in the link room (the television acts as the transceiver in this case).

The television will also act as a transceiver in the setup I suggested.

I agree on that it is possible to use a direct Datalink cable between the BM and the MX, but you can order MCL cable by the meter, which I do not think is possible with Datalink.

Great! many many thanks for all the information.

I was a little concerned regards to overload the amp with all the speakers and sub in the main room (its a big room). I been told that the intended speaker selector/switch (Niles) is impedance protected so I guess this will keep the BM safe? and with regards to the BM having problem to actually deliver a good big sound and also a good volume to so many speakers, I have been thinking about if it would be possible to connect a power amplifier (ie. QUAD 405 (100W/channel). Would this be a good idea? would the sound quality improve? where would this need to be connected? Between the BM and the selector/switch?

The Beomaster has an overload protection, but it might be an issue, that you won't be able to play your music at a high volume.

About a power amplifire - I'm not the right to answer...